Who's next?
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Whoever wins it looks like the other faction has more than 40 MPs. The Tories haven’t done what they should in the circumstances and coalesce around one candidate.
40 is the number because that’s about what it’ll take to reduce the government’s majority to zero.
Normally MPs can be persuaded to stay loyal because the House of Commons is the greatest club in the world and they want to stay there. But if Labour looks to be on for a landslide Tory backbenchers won’t care.
So look forward to two years of rebellions and knife edge votes.
40 is the number because that’s about what it’ll take to reduce the government’s majority to zero.
Normally MPs can be persuaded to stay loyal because the House of Commons is the greatest club in the world and they want to stay there. But if Labour looks to be on for a landslide Tory backbenchers won’t care.
So look forward to two years of rebellions and knife edge votes.
Re: Who's next?
I think a fair number of Tory MPs are resigned to a period of opposition sooner or later. The more savvy ones are hoping it will be sooner in order to limit the damage to their own prospects and leave the cleaning up to the Labour Party who are going to have to deal with the approaching economic depression - which is looking more and more inevitable as the days pass.
Time for a big fat one.
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Are there 100 utter fuckwits amongst the Tory MPs? I hope so.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 amJohnson will win. It'll go to the members and Johnson won't back out because he's Boris Johnson, and he'll win and the sh.t show will continue with the privileges committee
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I think we all know the answer to that.TimW wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:15 amAre there 100 utter fuckwits amongst the Tory MPs? I hope so.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 amJohnson will win. It'll go to the members and Johnson won't back out because he's Boris Johnson, and he'll win and the sh.t show will continue with the privileges committee
BBC lists 49 MPs for The Criminal currently:-
I think Wallace is the only one listed there who you wouldn’t instantly put in the “f.ckwit” column and AFAIK his support amounts to little more than a vague hint of “leaning towards Johnson” presumably on the back of promises to retain him as Defence Minister, raise defence spending to 3% and continue to fully back the Ukrainians so that’s hardly a statement of unqualified, full-throated support.Shaun Bailey, MP for West Bromwich West
Scott Benton, MP for Blackpool South
Peter Bone, MP for Wellingborough
Paul Bristow, MP for Peterborough
Bill Cash, MP for Stone
Sir Christopher Chope, MP for Christchurch
Simon Clarke, MP for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland
Brendan Clarke-Smith, MP for Bassetlaw
Leo Docherty, MP for Aldershot
Nadine Dorries, MP for Mid Bedfordshire
Sir James Duddridge, MP for Rochford and Southend East
Mark Eastwood, MP for Dewsbury
Ben Everitt, MP for Milton Keynes North
Michael Fabricant, MP for Lichfield
James Grundy, MP for Leigh
Jonathan Gullis, MP for Stoke-on-Trent North
Trudy Harrison, MP for Copeland
Chris Heaton-Harris, MP for Daventry
Antony Higginbotham, MP for Burnley
Philip Hollobone, MP for Kettering
Jane Hunt, MP for Loughborough
Andrea Jenkyns, MP for Morley and Outwood
Caroline Johnson, MP for Sleaford and North Hykeham
Gareth Johnson, MP for Dartford
Edward Leigh, MP for Gainsborough
Ian Levy, MP for Blyth Valley
Marco Longhi, MP for Dudley North
Karl McCartney, MP for Lincoln
Stephen McPartland, MP for Stevenage
Amanda Milling, MP for Cannock Chase
David Morris, MP for Morecambe and Lunesdale
Jill Mortimer, MP for Hartlepool
Holly Mumby-Croft, MP for Scunthorpe
Sheryll Murray, MP for South East Cornwall
Lia Nici, MP for Great Grimsby
Matthew Offord, MP for Hendon
Priti Patel, MP for Witham
Mark Pritchard, MP for The Wrekin
Tom Pursglove, MP for Corby
Jacob Rees-Mogg, MP for North East Somerset
Andrew Rosindell, MP for Romford
Alok Sharma, MP for Reading West
Greg Smith, MP for Buckingham
Henry Smith, MP for Crawley
Andrew Stephenson, MP for Pendle
Jane Stevenson, MP for Wolverhampton North East
Anne-Marie Trevelyan, MP for Berwick-Upon-Tweed
Shailesh Vara, MP for North West Cambridgeshire
Ben Wallace, MP for Wyre and Preston North
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Credible suggestions the MP for Christchurch will be made Minister for Upskirting under a new Johnson administration have yet to be formally denied*.Sir Christopher Chope
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Re: Who's next?
I just can't get my head round why, when their party has just about self-destructed, they want to destroy it a bit more.Little waster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:00 pmI think we all know the answer to that.TimW wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:15 amAre there 100 utter fuckwits amongst the Tory MPs? I hope so.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:31 amJohnson will win. It'll go to the members and Johnson won't back out because he's Boris Johnson, and he'll win and the sh.t show will continue with the privileges committee
Re: Who's next?
The lord of chaos and destruction wants to lead them again. I’d be all for it if it didn’t also mean the country will sink further along with the tories.TimW wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:12 pmI just can't get my head round why, when their party has just about self-destructed, they want to destroy it a bit more.
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Johnson camp saying they've got 100 MPs. Sunak camp saying we don't believe you.
It's all going very well
It's all going very well
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The thing is, would he really destroy the country quicker than the alternatives? As opposed to destroying the Tory party quicker?Grumble wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:24 pmThe lord of chaos and destruction wants to lead them again. I’d be all for it if it didn’t also mean the country will sink further along with the tories.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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I’ve got like three girlfriends but they’re all at a different school so you wouldn’t have met them.
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You should be locked up.
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Is everyone expected to breathe a sigh of relief when Sunak gets anointed?
Time for a big fat one.
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Sunak is more competent. But Johnson getting suspended from Parliament and then facing a recall petition might actually force a general election
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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That's when I'll breathe a sigh of relief.
I think the Tories are expecting a grateful nation when Johnson's not the leader. I hope they're disappointed.
Time for a big fat one.
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I think their playing games this summer - A complete waste of nearly half a year paralysed by whichever nominal head they had fighting for his or her political survival has finally taken the gloss off them
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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Sunak is a terrible candidate. A billionaire during economic agony? A tax dodger? A non-white leader?
But more popular than Johnson.
But more popular than Johnson.
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125 - 53 - 23 per BBC.
118 - 56 - 23 per Sky News.
I'm not sure what Sunak is waiting for. Mordone is done. Johnson is struggling.
Just declare you've got 180 supporters, >50%. Announce you've invited Boris to be a Special Envoy on Ukraine and he is considering the offer. Get the Sunday paper headlines and the final rush of bandwagon jumpers.
118 - 56 - 23 per Sky News.
I'm not sure what Sunak is waiting for. Mordone is done. Johnson is struggling.
Just declare you've got 180 supporters, >50%. Announce you've invited Boris to be a Special Envoy on Ukraine and he is considering the offer. Get the Sunday paper headlines and the final rush of bandwagon jumpers.
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Guido Fawkes has it at 131 - 74 - 27 including various Tory officials who need to remain publicly neutral.lpm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:05 pm125 - 53 - 23 per BBC.
118 - 56 - 23 per Sky News.
I'm not sure what Sunak is waiting for. Mordone is done. Johnson is struggling.
Just declare you've got 180 supporters, >50%. Announce you've invited Boris to be a Special Envoy on Ukraine and he is considering the offer. Get the Sunday paper headlines and the final rush of bandwagon jumpers.
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Guido is full of sh.t, all the time, on everything.bob sterman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:14 pmGuido Fawkes has it at 131 - 74 - 27 including various Tory officials who need to remain publicly neutral.
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Yes, I suspect he only tells the truth on occasion to make his lies more plausible.Ken McKenzie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:16 pmGuido is full of sh.t, all the time, on everything.bob sterman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:14 pmGuido Fawkes has it at 131 - 74 - 27 including various Tory officials who need to remain publicly neutral.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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I still remember, all this time later, that incident where Guido tweeted that the outrage at Truss becoming PM was because all the lefty socialists were scared of her might and power
If truth is many-sided, mendacity is many-tongued
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Re: Who's next?
No, I really don't want a sinophile* and reportedly softest front-bencher when it comes to Russia in number 10.
Mind you, I don't want any of the f.ckers in number 10.
*as applied to current regime/business environment.
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I suspect that Staines, as a corrupt slippery far right Tory Brexiteer, understands corrupt slippery far right Tory Brexiteers better than some of us.Ken McKenzie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:16 pmGuido is full of sh.t, all the time, on everything.bob sterman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:14 pmGuido Fawkes has it at 131 - 74 - 27 including various Tory officials who need to remain publicly neutral.