Mega-City One
-
- Dorkwood
- Posts: 1510
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:22 pm
Mega-City One
Ok, not quite, but this Saudi Arabian pipe-dream looks like the perfect attempt at making sci-fi dystopian cities real.
Re: Mega-City One
Cool. I presume this utopian city will be constructed and serviced by well paid, and fairly treated, workers. Otherwise that could lead to some Really Bad Things happening.
-
- Dorkwood
- Posts: 1510
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:22 pm
Re: Mega-City One
Also, with all the separate, self-contained 'zones', it reminds me of that sci-fi novel that I've suddenly forgotten... the tower block where everything descends into anarchy... just now horizontal and 100 miles long.
Re: Mega-City One
High-rise by J.G.Ballard? (also a Ben Wheatley film)FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:18 pmAlso, with all the separate, self-contained 'zones', it reminds me of that sci-fi novel that I've suddenly forgotten... the tower block where everything descends into anarchy... just now horizontal and 100 miles long.
Jaap's Page: https://www.jaapsch.net/
-
- Dorkwood
- Posts: 1510
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:22 pm
Re: Mega-City One
That's the one!jaap wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:29 pmHigh-rise by J.G.Ballard? (also a Ben Wheatley film)FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:18 pmAlso, with all the separate, self-contained 'zones', it reminds me of that sci-fi novel that I've suddenly forgotten... the tower block where everything descends into anarchy... just now horizontal and 100 miles long.
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
I reckon they can do it. They've built big stuff before.
And I don't see how it's that different to normal city blocks, as long as you can get through easily at street level. There's buildings in China with metro lines running through them (orthogonally). It's not like people generally really care about perambulating their own building with the warmth of the sun on their face. Especially when it's 40°C+.
Horrible regimes though.
And I don't see how it's that different to normal city blocks, as long as you can get through easily at street level. There's buildings in China with metro lines running through them (orthogonally). It's not like people generally really care about perambulating their own building with the warmth of the sun on their face. Especially when it's 40°C+.
Horrible regimes though.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
- EACLucifer
- Stummy Beige
- Posts: 4177
- Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:49 am
- Location: In Sumerian Haze
Re: Mega-City One
It's going to have an underhive, isn't it? It must surely have an underhive. An underhive full of strange, strange gangs, mutated life forms and the occasional well off noble who likes to hunt people for sport.
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
Re: Mega-City One
This may have some relevance, it's how the lift/elevator should be considered as one of the most transformative mass transit systems
(I think that's one of the points made, if it isn't, it should be)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04yzrqv
(I think that's one of the points made, if it isn't, it should be)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04yzrqv
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
Re: underhive, I'm imagining a mashup of a souk, a cyberpunk district cooling system, and that cave place out of the matrix.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
HOLY f.cking MACKEREL though, have you watched that f.cking promo video?
They're w.nking off about this monstrosity's purported "eco" credentials, when it's a f.cking 500m high f.cking wall running ONE HUNDRED f.cking MILES through the middle of what looks like pretty unspoiled habitat. Like DOES LITERALLY NOBODY CONSIDER ECOLOGICAL CONNECTIVITY WHEN PLANNING f.cking ANYTHING no they don't we already know the answer to that one.
How is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side? Are you TRYING to cause inbreeding depression?
Assumed this would be a regeneration project in an existing urbanisation. f.ck this stupid nonsense.
Like, at least make it a f.cking cross* or something.
*Yeah i know, but a crescent has a totally inefficient topology in this context.
They're w.nking off about this monstrosity's purported "eco" credentials, when it's a f.cking 500m high f.cking wall running ONE HUNDRED f.cking MILES through the middle of what looks like pretty unspoiled habitat. Like DOES LITERALLY NOBODY CONSIDER ECOLOGICAL CONNECTIVITY WHEN PLANNING f.cking ANYTHING no they don't we already know the answer to that one.
How is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side? Are you TRYING to cause inbreeding depression?
Assumed this would be a regeneration project in an existing urbanisation. f.ck this stupid nonsense.
Like, at least make it a f.cking cross* or something.
*Yeah i know, but a crescent has a totally inefficient topology in this context.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
- Boustrophedon
- Stummy Beige
- Posts: 2888
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:58 pm
- Location: Lincolnshire Wolds
Re: Mega-City One
And the people that are bred in there, we get to eat them right?
Hjulet snurrar men hamstern är död.
-
- After Pie
- Posts: 1621
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:02 am
Re: Mega-City One
Tunnels.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pmHow is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side?
Re: Mega-City One
They'll just have to think up their own punchlineBird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pmHow is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side?
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
To be fair if I was hopping around in the Saudi desert I'd probably join a fifty mile line for punch.Gfamily wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:00 pmThey'll just have to think up their own punchlineBird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pmHow is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side?
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
It's crazy but it just might work.Millennie Al wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:57 pmTunnels.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pmHow is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side?
Although, eco-underhive. Are you sure you want gangs of radioactive mutant jerboa pick-pockets, Millennie Al?
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
- Rich Scopie
- Snowbonk
- Posts: 541
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:21 pm
Re: Mega-City One
I’ve *definitely* seen them supporting Hawkwind, in about 1996.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:26 pmIt's crazy but it just might work.Millennie Al wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:57 pmTunnels.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:15 pmHow is one of those cute desert jerboa guys supposed to hop FIFTY f.cking MILES to get to the other side?
Although, eco-underhive. Are you sure you want gangs of radioactive mutant jerboa pick-pockets, Millennie Al?
It first was a rumour dismissed as a lie, but then came the evidence none could deny:
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!
Re: Mega-City One
So I guess the other way to look at this is that we need to make big changes to the way we live. Huge, silly vanity projects may be huge and silly and vain but they also provide concentrations of resources so that new ideas can be tested and help ratchet the public's expectations of what can be achieved - in this case in a really important and urgent area.FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:15 pmOk, not quite, but this Saudi Arabian pipe-dream looks like the perfect attempt at making sci-fi dystopian cities real.
As for the scorn about densification of living - you guys have some serious reading to do. We're not going to all have acre plots and weave our own trousers from patchwork plants.
As for the scorn about Saudi in general - fair enough - but the concept of a new sustainable* city can tolerate a few layers of b.llsh.t heaped on it. It would be lovely if the Saudi's wanted to spend their petro-dollars on saving the Amazon rainforest but get real, eh?
*whatever the f.ck sustainable happens to mean this week
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Mega-City One
Yeah but my scorn about impacts on ecological connectivity is reasonable and well-evidenced so nyer ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
Re: Mega-City One
Tunnels are a thing. Anyway, it's a desert, the whole point is there's nothing there.
I might be trolling a bit.
I might be trolling a bit.
Re: Mega-City One
True. There's something particular that is not in a desert. Can't quite remember what, probably isn't important for survival.
Re: Mega-City One
Yup, and with changing rainfall patterns and more frequent droughts globally it probably makes sense to get some large scale models of resilience put together, wouldn’t you agree?