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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by jimbob » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:14 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Anti-woke = anti LGBT, anti diversity, anti lockdown. Common sense = lack of care and respect. So, standard Tory policy then. Pandering to the far right and grumpy old white people.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... sense-tsar
I did like the observation that maybe he's trying to be seen to be pandering to them without doing anything, so giving that role to someone who probably manages to be useless even by the standards of this government.
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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by jimbob » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:31 pm

jimbob wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:14 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Anti-woke = anti LGBT, anti diversity, anti lockdown. Common sense = lack of care and respect. So, standard Tory policy then. Pandering to the far right and grumpy old white people.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... sense-tsar
I did like the observation that maybe he's trying to be seen to be pandering to them without doing anything, so giving that role to someone who probably manages to be useless even by the standards of this government.
Although my thinking is that that is probably just two lots of idiocy cancelling themselves out, although I can see Sunak trying a Baldrick cunning plan.
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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by monkey » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:38 pm

jimbob wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:14 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Anti-woke = anti LGBT, anti diversity, anti lockdown. Common sense = lack of care and respect. So, standard Tory policy then. Pandering to the far right and grumpy old white people.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... sense-tsar
I did like the observation that maybe he's trying to be seen to be pandering to them without doing anything, so giving that role to someone who probably manages to be useless even by the standards of this government.
Yeah, it's a sop. Much Like when Rees-Mogg was minister for "Brexit opportunities and government efficiency". All he got to do was complain about civil servants and leave insulting notes for people.

Esther McVey will say some horrible stuff, maybe write a report or two, but have no power to change anything.

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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by bjn » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:56 pm

I can get why you might disagree about taxation levels, spending priorities and appropriate regulations. That really is orthogonal to authoritarian c.ntery about marginal groups. For example I know a few erstwhile lefties who are anti-trans and quite socially old fashioned.

However, the Tories have demonstrated that their ideas on how to run the country have just enshitifed the place, so all they have to fall back on is the populist c.ntery. So they are doubling down on it (while given various favours to their mates). Fortunately it looks like the populism isn’t gaining much traction at all. (Well Brexit aside).

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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by temptar » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:48 pm

You guys need an election.

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Post by discovolante » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:49 pm

You don't say.
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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by jimbob » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:41 pm

temptar wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:48 pm
You guys need an election.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... dApp_Other

I need to recalibrate my cynicism because I didn't have "passing a law saying Rwanda is safe" on my list of possibilities.

I'm not sure that his "appeal to those who are wavering but want a bit less evil by appointing Cameron" plan will work.

We really need an election.
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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by temptar » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:14 pm

I watched his presser. The comments on Strasbourg were not very edifying.

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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by JQH » Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:33 am

temptar wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:06 pm
I just want some entertainment. UK politics is reality free.
FIFY
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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by Woodchopper » Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:00 pm

bjn wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:56 pm
I can get why you might disagree about taxation levels, spending priorities and appropriate regulations. That really is orthogonal to authoritarian c.ntery about marginal groups. For example I know a few erstwhile lefties who are anti-trans and quite socially old fashioned.

However, the Tories have demonstrated that their ideas on how to run the country have just enshitifed the place, so all they have to fall back on is the populist c.ntery. So they are doubling down on it (while given various favours to their mates). Fortunately it looks like the populism isn’t gaining much traction at all. (Well Brexit aside).
Assuming they that have given up and expect there to be a Labour landslide then an important motivation for current performative rightwing c.ntery will be future employment opportunities for ministers. Of course there will be the traditional company directorships. But some ministers may well be angling to be paid to be a right wing c.nt in jobs like Mail or Telegraph columnist or GB News presenter.

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Re: Rishi Sunak - PM

Post by EACLucifer » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:16 pm

He doesn't even know how to use a hammer...

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