Indecision 2024

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by lpm » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:06 pm

I think it depends on what's in writing.

At one end of the spectrum, any email or handwritten saying "We've got to hide this until after the election" would be an easy win.

But if all they have is a "I don't want embarrassment" type message it's too ambiguous. Trump will obviously pretend it was to keep it quiet from Melania. He has a pretty good defence in that he routinely did these hush money deals for decades when not in an election, so the election wasn't relevant.

Cohen's testimony isn't enough, if it's just verbal instructions, because Cohen is almost as notorious for lying and crime as Trump. We simply don't know what Bragg & Co have got in writing.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by lpm » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:38 pm

Remember the Girther conspiracy theories?

Our second favourite doctor, Ronny Jackson, signed Trump off in his White House physicals as 6'3 and 236 pounds, narrowly beating the "obese" label.

The NY police have recorded him as 6'1 and 270 pounds.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Grumble » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:07 pm

lpm wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:38 pm
Remember the Girther conspiracy theories?

Our second favourite doctor, Ronny Jackson, signed Trump off in his White House physicals as 6'3 and 236 pounds, narrowly beating the "obese" label.

The NY police have recorded him as 6'1 and 270 pounds.
Fairly plausible that his weight could have changed in less time than that. The height, not so much. Although my dad who’s about the same age has definitely shrunk.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by lpm » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:58 pm

I think he looks a good bit healthier today.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by FlammableFlower » Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:07 pm

Pence isn't going to contest giving evidence to the Jan 6th inquiry. Could make life more difficult for Trump.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Chris Preston » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 am

Wednesday brings:

Robert F Kennedy Jr, noted anti-vaxxer, has announced a run for the Presidency.

Let the fun times begin. Will Kennedy be able to drag the anti-vaccine Trump base over to the Democrats? Or will he crash and burn at the first hurdle?
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by temptar » Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:01 am

Oh my god no.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Al Capone Junior » Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:00 pm

Chris Preston wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 am
Wednesday brings:

Robert F Kennedy Jr, noted anti-vaxxer, has announced a run for the Presidency.

Let the fun times begin. Will Kennedy be able to drag the anti-vaccine Trump base over to the Democrats? Or will he crash and burn at the first hurdle?
I'm betting and hoping for an early burn. Shirley we can't elect the biggest douche in the universe...twice..?

Nevermind. Obviously we can and probably will. :roll:

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by EACLucifer » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:26 pm

Tucker's out on his arse, effective immediately. I guess costing your firm nearly a billion with more lawsuits on the way to ramp that number up yet higher is not conducive to continued employment.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by FlammableFlower » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:45 pm

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Woodchopper » Sun May 07, 2023 2:36 pm

Washington Post poll.

Trump slightly ahead over Biden (36 to 32, Q16). Biden also unpopular among Democrat supporters and most would like another candidate (Q12).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... e_manual_6

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Herainestold » Sun May 07, 2023 7:53 pm

Woodchopper wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 2:36 pm
Washington Post poll.

Trump slightly ahead over Biden (36 to 32, Q16). Biden also unpopular among Democrat supporters and most would like another candidate (Q12).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... e_manual_6
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by headshot » Sun May 07, 2023 9:12 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 7:53 pm
Woodchopper wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 2:36 pm
Washington Post poll.

Trump slightly ahead over Biden (36 to 32, Q16). Biden also unpopular among Democrat supporters and most would like another candidate (Q12).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... e_manual_6
Trump will win in a landslide. For various reasons.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Grumble » Sun May 07, 2023 9:12 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 7:53 pm
Woodchopper wrote:
Sun May 07, 2023 2:36 pm
Washington Post poll.

Trump slightly ahead over Biden (36 to 32, Q16). Biden also unpopular among Democrat supporters and most would like another candidate (Q12).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... e_manual_6
Trump will win in a landslide. For various reasons.
Anti-Trump voters didn’t really care about Biden when they voted for him last time. They’ll vote against Trump again.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by EACLucifer » Tue May 09, 2023 7:33 pm

Trump's lost in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit. She's been awarded five million dollars. Obviously nothing would ever be sufficient to compensate her for what she went through, but I do hope this provides some comfort.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Grumble » Tue May 09, 2023 7:50 pm

EACLucifer wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 7:33 pm
Trump's lost in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit. She's been awarded five million dollars. Obviously nothing would ever be sufficient to compensate her for what she went through, but I do hope this provides some comfort.
Trump has probably made than that just from being sued
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by EACLucifer » Tue May 09, 2023 8:00 pm

Grumble wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 7:50 pm
EACLucifer wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 7:33 pm
Trump's lost in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit. She's been awarded five million dollars. Obviously nothing would ever be sufficient to compensate her for what she went through, but I do hope this provides some comfort.
Trump has probably made than that just from being sued
I feel the settlement should have been substantially higher - the high profile would have made it much worse for her for starters.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Herainestold » Tue May 09, 2023 10:01 pm

Grumble wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 7:50 pm
EACLucifer wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 7:33 pm
Trump's lost in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit. She's been awarded five million dollars. Obviously nothing would ever be sufficient to compensate her for what she went through, but I do hope this provides some comfort.
Trump has probably made than that just from being sued
Correct. Its a corrupt system. America is headed straight back to fascism.Carrol should leave the US immediately. She will not be safe there.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by monkey » Tue May 09, 2023 11:27 pm

George Santos, the lying Republican liar has been charged with something. My guess is the charity stuff, but he does lie a lot. In court soon.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Wed May 10, 2023 12:04 pm

monkey wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 11:27 pm
George Santos, the lying Republican liar has been charged with something. My guess is the charity stuff, but he does lie a lot. In court soon.
He was working for a finance company that was shut down for being a classic ponzi scheme, so that's likely.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by monkey » Wed May 10, 2023 12:31 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 12:04 pm
monkey wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 11:27 pm
George Santos, the lying Republican liar has been charged with something. My guess is the charity stuff, but he does lie a lot. In court soon.
He was working for a finance company that was shut down for being a classic ponzi scheme, so that's likely.
Any takers for campaign financing?

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by bolo » Wed May 10, 2023 2:17 pm

seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, and two counts of lying to the House of Representatives on financial forms

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... s-charges/

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by monkey » Wed May 10, 2023 2:46 pm

Looks to me like they were investigating the campaign stuff and found out he was doing benefit fraud too.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by bolo » Wed May 10, 2023 7:19 pm

The Santos indictment is here in case anyone wants to read the details.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Thu May 11, 2023 11:30 am

Given that he's already a fugitive from fraud charges in Brazil, are the prosecutors going to oppose bail, do we think?

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