Diets 2023 the thinner thread

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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by Stranger Mouse » Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:22 pm

bagpuss wrote:
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Meanwhile the Guardian suggests having dinner for breakfast, or at least that you should get more protein in the morning.
n=1, anecdata and all that but...

I changed my breakfast habits about 18 months ago, from always eating something heavy on the carbs, albeit "healthy"*, such as a low sugar cereal or porridge (unless staying at a hotel/B&B) to always ensuring I had a good amount of protein at breakfast. As I hate eggs and don't really have much interest in eating dinner for breakfast, this is almost always plain skyr, with some high protein granola and fresh or frozen fruit to make it more enjoyable to eat. Whereas before, I was always hungry by mid-late morning and really wanting an elevenses snack, I very very rarely feel hungry before lunch now. It works for me, for sure.

My downfall is now sugar cravings in the evening when I'm tired, but I'm working on that one.


*Whatever that means - in this case, porridge, Weetabix, or Bitesize Shredded Wheat, either with or without fruit.
I love Skyr although I’ve moved over to the 5% fat version for reasons of palatability and for longer term satiety as mentioned up thread. It’s nice to have some before I go bed in the morning and it doesn’t seem to affect my sleep adversely which I suppose is down to the carbs being minimal and low glycaemic .



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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by shpalman » Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:55 pm

I tend to prefer Fage Greek yogurt but yeah, Greek yogurt or skyr are both high-protein (the 0% fat Fage has the highest protein content; "Greek style" yogurt isn't necessarily the same so check the nutritional information) and I always have some before going to bed (with honey and either walnuts or almonds). I like to imagine it's the kind of protein which gets slowly digested overnight such that muscles grow or at least don't get broken down so much.
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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by science_fox » Fri May 05, 2023 8:28 pm

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About weight loss plateaus mentioned upthread.

I'm down to about where I want to be weight wise- mostly just not eating breakfast. I still don't snack during the day which I feel is probably an important contributor to this working. I do have breakfast if I'm especially exercising that day - eg climbing session or caving trip, but cope fine with my normal no car exercise biking to work walking about etc.

Interestingly still seem to have some abdomen fat so will continue to see if I can drop that and where the weight plateaus then.
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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by shpalman » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 pm

on snacking

The tldr seems to be that it doesn't really matter whether you snack or not as long as what you eat is healthy and the total calories aren't too many.
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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by shpalman » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:34 pm

Ok it may not be a good idea to eat as much protein as I've been suggesting.

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/021924-too-much-protein

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-024-00984-2
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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by Tessa K » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:17 pm

shpalman wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:34 pm
Ok it may not be a good idea to eat as much protein as I've been suggesting.

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/021924-too-much-protein

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-024-00984-2
I knew heavy protein is bad for the kidneys but not that, thanks.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3266932 ... %20health.

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Re: Diets 2023 the thinner thread

Post by shpalman » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:03 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:17 pm
shpalman wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:34 pm
Ok it may not be a good idea to eat as much protein as I've been suggesting.

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/021924-too-much-protein

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-024-00984-2
I knew heavy protein is bad for the kidneys but not that, thanks.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3266932 ... %20health.
I knew it was to watch out for in the case of existing kidney disease, it's less clear whether or not it can actually increase the risk of kidney disease. It may be confounded by the fact that the populations under study as regarding the high-protein diet were in many of the cases (see their Table 2) obese, and in some cases also suffering from type-II diabetes, hence the idea of using the diet to mitigate those issues.

But I get the piss regularly taken as part of the health checkup my workplace gives me, so at least if my kidneys start to show problems I should find out quickly.
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