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Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:48 pm
by monkey
Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:53 pm
Survey of Scots who voted SNP has Forbes ahead, with people interviewed this week from Monday to Wednesday. About a third say they don’t know.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/poli ... e-29296053
It was carried out by “communications agency the Big Partnership” so I’m not sure how seriously to take it.
They have the results here -
clicky. It took me a little while to work out why I was only seeing one result (click on the question to see more). You do get to see the breakdowns by the other questions by clicking on the "by" at the top right.
In addition to the don't knows, none of the above got 14%.
No methodology. No idea how trustworthy they might be.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:03 pm
by Woodchopper
Newish poll by IPSOS
Kate Forbes is currently more popular among the Scottish public than is Humza Yousaf, although none of the candidates to replace Nicola Sturgeon has a positive rating among the public. Forbes has a ‘net’ favourability score of -8, with 27% of the public saying they have a favourable opinion of her and 35% unfavourable. Humza Yousaf’s net score is lower at -20 (22% favourable, 42% unfavourable). Ash Regan’s is lower still at -24 (14% favourable, 38% unfavourable), while 13% of the public say they don’t know enough to rate her.
Ratings of Yousaf and Forbes are closer among SNP voters. Yousaf has a net score of +11 (38% favourable, 27% unfavourable) while Forbes’ rating is +6 (37% favourable, 31% unfavourable). Ash Regan receives a net score of -7 among SNP voters (22% favourable, 29% favourable).
https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/tight-race- ... ngs-are-up
Clearly that isn’t the same as a survey of the party members who will vote.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:05 pm
by discovolante
Boooo
I hope you're happy, all you f.ckers with your Jimmy Krankie jokes and 'all Nicola Sturgeon cares about is Scottish independence' shite.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:33 pm
by discovolante
Thank f.ck
I'll take that.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:53 pm
by Grumble
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:33 pm
Thank f.ck
I'll take that.
Why is everything 52-48? I know this is not a new observation
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:09 pm
by discovolante
Grumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:53 pm
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:33 pm
Thank f.ck
I'll take that.
Why is everything 52-48? I know this is not a new observation
I said the same thing to SvL. Someone should check how much this is actually happening.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:09 pm
by monkey
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:09 pm
Grumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:53 pm
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:33 pm
Thank f.ck
I'll take that.
Why is everything 52-48? I know this is not a new observation
I said the same thing to SvL. Someone should check how much this is actually happening.
I bet it's like that thing that I forgot the name of when you learn a new word and then you keep hearing it.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:12 am
by dccarm
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:09 pm
Grumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:53 pm
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:33 pm
Thank f.ck
I'll take that.
Why is everything 52-48? I know this is not a new observation
I said the same thing to SvL. Someone should check how much this is actually happening.
It seems more, but it's only 52% of the time
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:06 am
by Woodchopper
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Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:10 am
by dyqik
52% pick the left button. 48% the other.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:14 am
by dyqik
There's probably a selection bias in effect - often it's only questions that are too close or politically hot that go to a two way referendum, and get the results published heavily. Ones where a much larger margin are expected either won't go to a vote, or won't be reported nearly as much.
So that limits the effective possible range significantly.
If you wanted to test how often that result comes up, look at US state ballot questions. There are loads of them, and often for things that seem obvious.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:13 pm
by shpalman
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:15 am
by Woodchopper
Peter Murrell, Nicola Sturgeon’s husband, has been arrested by Scottish police in an investigation into the Scottish National party’s fundraising and finances.
Police Scotland said a 58-year-old man had been “arrested as a suspect” on Wednesday and added that its officers were carrying out searches at a number of addresses linked to the investigation.
The investigation was launched after complaints about the SNP’s handling of £600,000 in donations raised by the party ostensibly to campaign for and hold a second independence referendum.
It is alleged the money instead was used to help with the party’s day-to-day running costs.
In a short statement, the police said: “A 58-year-old man has today, Wednesday, 5 April 2023, been arrested as a suspect in connection with the ongoing investigation into the funding and finances of the Scottish National party.
“The man is in custody and is being questioned by Police Scotland detectives. Officers are also carrying out searches at a number of addresses as part of the investigation.
“A report will be sent to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. [As] the investigation is ongoing we are unable to comment further.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... estigation
ETA for Nicola Sturgeon it looks bad which ever way her legal team argue. If she knew then she's just as guilty in a moral sense if not legally. If she didn't she presumably had some kind of 'don't ask don't tell' arrangement with her husband, which seems pretty dodgy for £600 000 worth of donations.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:27 am
by Woodchopper
Little waster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:31 pm
A lot of CyberNats BTL pointing out that poll is a bit of an outlier with other contemporary ones showing a slightly narrowing SNP lead but not a complete collapse.
You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Looks as if there has been a sustained narrowing of the gap between the SNP and Labour.
https://whatscotlandthinks.org/question ... -election/
Could be a reflection of the high level of support for Labour in other parts of the UK, and the SNP's change of leadership. If the latter then Humza Yousaf will need to make an impression soon.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:39 am
by IvanV
Woodchopper wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:15 am
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... estigation
ETA for Nicola Sturgeon it looks bad which ever way her legal team argue. If she knew then she's just as guilty in a moral sense if not legally. If she didn't she presumably had some kind of 'don't ask don't tell' arrangement with her husband, which seems pretty dodgy for £600 000 worth of donations.
If she knew this was coming out, at least she had the decency to resign in advance of it, unlike certain Johnsons we could mention. Though maybe she should have resigned a long time ago.
This issue has been hanging around for 2 years or more now. Almost 2 years ago, Douglas Chapman resigned as SNP Treasurer, saying he
did not have access to sufficient information on the finances of SNP to carry out his fiduciary duties. Something is a bit odd when the Treasurer is not the one in control of that information. A complaint to the police over the £600,000 predates even that resignation. It makes you wonder why this comes out just now. What did Sturgeon know back then? Surely she wasn't going to accept the blandishments that made Chapman resign.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:18 pm
by lpm
They're digging up the garden? There's literally bodies hidden?
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:29 pm
by Gfamily
lpm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:18 pm
They're digging up the garden? There's literally bodies hidden?
Or maybe they just made some heavy hints as she's planning on putting in some tatties and neeps.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:45 pm
by noggins
Oh no, has Saint Nicola got clay feet?
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:12 pm
by discovolante
lpm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:18 pm
They're digging up the garden? There's literally bodies hidden?
Really want to know what was in that barbecue.
Is it wrong that I'm a bit frustrated by all the instability this is likely to cause more than anything right now? I'm a bit sick of it all.
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:31 pm
by Rich Scopie
lpm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:18 pm
They're digging up the garden? There's literally bodies hidden?
“There’re” if it’s multiple bodies.
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Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:36 pm
by Woodchopper
The SNP's auditors resigned six months ago, and haven't been replaced:
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ ... af-4099634
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am
by EACLucifer
Is it bad when your treasurer is arrested in an investigation into your finances?
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:31 pm
by TopBadger
discovolante wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:12 pm
Is it wrong that I'm a bit frustrated by all the instability this is likely to cause more than anything right now? I'm a bit sick of it all.
It's entertaining TV news that is great for the stability of the UK...
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:59 pm
by El Pollo Diablo
EACLucifer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am
Is it bad when your treasurer is arrested in an investigation into your finances?
Is it worse if your treasurer is Phil Mitchell?
Re: Sturgeon resigning
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:38 pm
by Woodchopper
EACLucifer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am
Is it bad when your treasurer is arrested in an investigation into your finances?
Speaking to journalists ahead of his statement, Mr Yousaf said Mr Beattie's arrest was "clearly a very serious matter indeed" but he had not been suspended from the party as "people are innocent until proven guilty".
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-65309791
One of the reasons to suspend someone is to stop them from doing any harm while the matter is being investigated. Waiting for a guilty verdict would potentially mean doing nothing for years.