Pay increases by a record amount!
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Pay increases by a record amount!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66501937
Although inflation rose by a higher amount, so real wages fell on average. Again.
And obviously, given the government's insistence that high wage increases drive inflation, this is definitely a bad thing.
And, obviously, this is driven by private sector wage increases, because public sector wages are increasing by a lot less on average, which will create a stronger pay gap which in turn is likely to drive more people out of the sector.
Yay.
Although inflation rose by a higher amount, so real wages fell on average. Again.
And obviously, given the government's insistence that high wage increases drive inflation, this is definitely a bad thing.
And, obviously, this is driven by private sector wage increases, because public sector wages are increasing by a lot less on average, which will create a stronger pay gap which in turn is likely to drive more people out of the sector.
Yay.
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Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
Yes, not good.
European gas prices, global food and oil prices are back down to where they were before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Supply chain problems caused by the pandemic seem to have eased.
Inflation should be dropping rapidly, as it is in the Eurozone, where its at about half the level that it was at the peak, and is now at about five per cent.
So UK inflation in the summer of 2023 isn't caused by rapidly increasing prices for raw materials.
As mentioned in the article it does appear to be caused by labour shortages. Companies can't hire people and so are having to outbid each other. The problem is that increased pay without improved output (ie no gains in productivity) just leads to price rises and people's pay increases get erroded by inflation, while those on fixed or stagnating incomes see their standard of living fall.
In the short run the government can reduce inflation by causing a recession or skating close to one with zero growth. But long term that's a recipe for lost decades.
Long run the only way out is to either increase the labour force or improve productivity.
European gas prices, global food and oil prices are back down to where they were before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Supply chain problems caused by the pandemic seem to have eased.
Inflation should be dropping rapidly, as it is in the Eurozone, where its at about half the level that it was at the peak, and is now at about five per cent.
So UK inflation in the summer of 2023 isn't caused by rapidly increasing prices for raw materials.
As mentioned in the article it does appear to be caused by labour shortages. Companies can't hire people and so are having to outbid each other. The problem is that increased pay without improved output (ie no gains in productivity) just leads to price rises and people's pay increases get erroded by inflation, while those on fixed or stagnating incomes see their standard of living fall.
In the short run the government can reduce inflation by causing a recession or skating close to one with zero growth. But long term that's a recipe for lost decades.
Long run the only way out is to either increase the labour force or improve productivity.
Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
If only there was some way the Government could have avoided major labour shortages after the 2019 general election.
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Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
Well indeed.
The consequences for the economy of an ageing population with a smaller proportion of working age people have been raised for decades. Too bad that Britain's response to inevitable labour market problems was to cut its self off from migrant labour from Europe.
That said, there would still be problems as labour shortages are being felt across Europe.
Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
I read in the some of the tabloids that there are over 100,000 working age people who could be available for work very soon, if they weren't being forced onto barges or flown to far-off countries.
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Another factor in inflation is the difficulties in importing stuff. Import costs from the EU are now huge and take ages, and a lot of things have taxes on them now. Construction inflation is still enormous, steel is expensive for example.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:33 amYes, not good.
European gas prices, global food and oil prices are back down to where they were before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Supply chain problems caused by the pandemic seem to have eased.
Inflation should be dropping rapidly, as it is in the Eurozone, where its at about half the level that it was at the peak, and is now at about five per cent.
So UK inflation in the summer of 2023 isn't caused by rapidly increasing prices for raw materials.
As mentioned in the article it does appear to be caused by labour shortages. Companies can't hire people and so are having to outbid each other. The problem is that increased pay without improved output (ie no gains in productivity) just leads to price rises and people's pay increases get erroded by inflation, while those on fixed or stagnating incomes see their standard of living fall.
In the short run the government can reduce inflation by causing a recession or skating close to one with zero growth. But long term that's a recipe for lost decades.
Long run the only way out is to either increase the labour force or improve productivity.
If truth is many-sided, mendacity is many-tongued
Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
You can't really expect real wages to rise during a serious economic crisis. Holding real wages close to neutral is a pretty good result.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:01 amhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66501937
Although inflation rose by a higher amount, so real wages fell on average. Again.
And obviously, given the government's insistence that high wage increases drive inflation, this is definitely a bad thing.
And, obviously, this is driven by private sector wage increases, because public sector wages are increasing by a lot less on average, which will create a stronger pay gap which in turn is likely to drive more people out of the sector.
Yay.
Minimum wage, pensions and core benefits increased by 10%, protecting the poorer deciles from the worst of it. That builds the foundation for everyone else.
However there's still the endless distractions in the fight for proper pay, from fussing about ULEZ charges to pleading for subsidies for fossil fuel burning.
In a year or so we will have the Starmer government, determined to embark on a 30 year transformation increase the share of the economy going to labour maintain the status quo.
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To be fair, it's hard since Parfitt and Lancaster died. I imagine they'll end up like Trigger's broom.
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Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
Blair didn't maintain the status quo. He did quite a lot, some of which only Sunak is getting round to try undoing.lpm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:19 amYou can't really expect real wages to rise during a serious economic crisis. Holding real wages close to neutral is a pretty good result.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:01 amhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66501937
Although inflation rose by a higher amount, so real wages fell on average. Again.
And obviously, given the government's insistence that high wage increases drive inflation, this is definitely a bad thing.
And, obviously, this is driven by private sector wage increases, because public sector wages are increasing by a lot less on average, which will create a stronger pay gap which in turn is likely to drive more people out of the sector.
Yay.
Minimum wage, pensions and core benefits increased by 10%, protecting the poorer deciles from the worst of it. That builds the foundation for everyone else.
However there's still the endless distractions in the fight for proper pay, from fussing about ULEZ charges to pleading for subsidies for fossil fuel burning.
In a year or so we will have the Starmer government, determined to embark on a 30 year transformation increase the share of the economy going to labour maintain the status quo.
Blair also did a lot wrong but did make a difference.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
Re: Pay increases by a record amount!
Starmer's stance seems to be "We'll be like them, but better at it. More efficient." Blair went in saying he was going to change stuff.jimbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:10 pmBlair didn't maintain the status quo. He did quite a lot, some of which only Sunak is getting round to try undoing.lpm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:19 amYou can't really expect real wages to rise during a serious economic crisis. Holding real wages close to neutral is a pretty good result.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:01 amhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66501937
Although inflation rose by a higher amount, so real wages fell on average. Again.
And obviously, given the government's insistence that high wage increases drive inflation, this is definitely a bad thing.
And, obviously, this is driven by private sector wage increases, because public sector wages are increasing by a lot less on average, which will create a stronger pay gap which in turn is likely to drive more people out of the sector.
Yay.
Minimum wage, pensions and core benefits increased by 10%, protecting the poorer deciles from the worst of it. That builds the foundation for everyone else.
However there's still the endless distractions in the fight for proper pay, from fussing about ULEZ charges to pleading for subsidies for fossil fuel burning.
In a year or so we will have the Starmer government, determined to embark on a 30 year transformation increase the share of the economy going to labour maintain the status quo.
Blair also did a lot wrong but did make a difference.
Might change come election time, but I'm not that excited by Labour right now.
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but still rise by more than most people's pay increases.
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