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Re: Russell Brand

Post by IvanV » Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:05 pm

Grumble wrote:
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Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:10 am
When Sachsgate happened it just confirmed to me how revolting he was, Georgina Baillie suffered the most as a consequence.
I saw someone on twitter point out that Brand and Ross were made to apologise to Sachs, not to Baillie, even though it was her private sexual history that they had broadcast. All the media coverage I remember at the time was about how appalling it was to treat Sachs that way, nothing about how they treated Baillie.
This is a very good point and I’m ashamed that it didn’t occur to me.
Other way around for me. I was confused at the time about why this was supposed to be embarrassing to Sachs. But evidently Sachs was indeed publicly embarrassed, and hence that was where the BBC was going to insist an apology was directed. (After Brand had made himself rich on the story, he eventually apologised to Baillie and paid for her rehab. Guilty conscience, or derogatory rate of commission, or what?)

But I wasn't very well tuned into people's feelings about such things, and have made quite a through horrible mistakes through ignorance and insensitivity over the years.

Trying to understand why people would see this as embarrassing to Sachs, then eventually it seemed to me to depend on a second piece of ages-old inequality/misogyny, that elders are supposed to protect women from that first piece of ages-old inequality/misogyny, being preyed upon by men, who will promise the earth but instead turn them into damaged goods. And Sachs accepted that and took on the failed protector position. But tell me if I've misunderstood.

If Sachs had refused to be embarrassed and called Brand out for being a predator and cad, and defended his granddaughter, I wonder what the public reaction would have been? But Brand probably knew well it was unlikely Sachs would see it like that.

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Re: Russell Brand

Post by Woodchopper » Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:34 pm

Russell Brand has been charged with rape, indecent assault and sexual assault between 1999 and 2005.

The charges relate to four separate women.

Brand has been interviewed multiple times by police since an investigation by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4's Dispatches in September 2023 revealed multiple serious allegations against him.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0457d02e9go

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Re: Russell Brand

Post by Grumble » Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:50 pm

If I haven’t already said it in this thread I’ll say it now. I’ve always thought Brand was a revolting man. Whatever the truth of these allegations I don’t think he can actually sink much lower in my estimation anyway.
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Re: Russell Brand

Post by jimbob » Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:38 pm

Grumble wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:50 pm
If I haven’t already said it in this thread I’ll say it now. I’ve always thought Brand was a revolting man. Whatever the truth of these allegations I don’t think he can actually sink much lower in my estimation anyway.
Certainly since the Andrew Sachs situation
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Re: Russell Brand

Post by Gfamily » Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:56 pm

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