Re: Russell Brand
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:11 pm
I mean, rape, sexual assault and coercive control are all crimes
I thought she said that she wasn't assaulted herself, but trusted people told her about Him.
Your post in The Onion: https://www.theonion.com/nation-could-h ... 1850849838Martin_B wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:18 pmThe only surprising thing about this news is that it's news.
"Russell Brand is serial sexual predator" is something I thought would have come out during the height of the MeToo revelations; to the extent that I thought it probably had and I'd just missed it under the tsunami of revelations of other thoroughly despicable actors/directors/producers/etc.
But, if the 80 per month is true, then a lot of women find the middle aged catweasel, predatory sex pirate actually attractive. I, as a hetrosexual cis male, find this inexplicable, just as I find the so called attractiveness of the female Kardassians, inexplicable.Fishnut wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:55 pmI can't imagine why women would feel unable to speak out about a guy who had been lauded in the tabloids for his sexual exploits.Throughout his career, Brand’s material has acknowledged his sex addiction and he has often publicly joked about his predatory behaviour and sex life.
There were rumours of more sinister behaviour — said to be discussed as an “open secret” by senior TV and radio executives, and among female comedians who warned each other of his behaviour — but the women involved previously felt unable to speak out...
His womanising ways — he once said he could sleep with 80 women in a month — saw him crowned “Shagger of the Year” by The Sun three times.
Nice to know it wasn't just me, then. Although, reading his Wikipedia page (I know) there were allegations from Dannii Minogue from 2006.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:50 pmYour post in The Onion: https://www.theonion.com/nation-could-h ... 1850849838Martin_B wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:18 pmThe only surprising thing about this news is that it's news.
"Russell Brand is serial sexual predator" is something I thought would have come out during the height of the MeToo revelations; to the extent that I thought it probably had and I'd just missed it under the tsunami of revelations of other thoroughly despicable actors/directors/producers/etc.
Many people find confidence attractive, and quite a few think the word salad that comes out of his mouth is a sign of intelligence.Boustrophedon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:07 pmBut, if the 80 per month is true, then a lot of women find the middle aged catweasel, predatory sex pirate actually attractive. I, as a hetrosexual cis male, find this inexplicable, just as I find the so called attractiveness of the female Kardassians, inexplicable.Fishnut wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:55 pmI can't imagine why women would feel unable to speak out about a guy who had been lauded in the tabloids for his sexual exploits.Throughout his career, Brand’s material has acknowledged his sex addiction and he has often publicly joked about his predatory behaviour and sex life.
There were rumours of more sinister behaviour — said to be discussed as an “open secret” by senior TV and radio executives, and among female comedians who warned each other of his behaviour — but the women involved previously felt unable to speak out...
His womanising ways — he once said he could sleep with 80 women in a month — saw him crowned “Shagger of the Year” by The Sun three times.
But the fact remains that some people find the superficially attractive, obvious sex symbol, to be actually attractive and I don't understand that.
Fame always attracts groupies and boys/men who want to align themselves with 'heroes'.Grumble wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:16 amMany people find confidence attractive, and quite a few think the word salad that comes out of his mouth is a sign of intelligence.Boustrophedon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:07 pmBut, if the 80 per month is true, then a lot of women find the middle aged catweasel, predatory sex pirate actually attractive. I, as a hetrosexual cis male, find this inexplicable, just as I find the so called attractiveness of the female Kardassians, inexplicable.
But the fact remains that some people find the superficially attractive, obvious sex symbol, to be actually attractive and I don't understand that.
He was awarded 'Shagger of the Year' in 2006, 2007 and 2008, when he was between 31 and 33 years old.Boustrophedon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:07 pmBut, if the 80 per month is true, then a lot of women find the middle aged catweasel, predatory sex pirate actually attractive. I, as a hetrosexual cis male, find this inexplicable, just as I find the so called attractiveness of the female Kardassians, inexplicable.Fishnut wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:55 pmI can't imagine why women would feel unable to speak out about a guy who had been lauded in the tabloids for his sexual exploits.Throughout his career, Brand’s material has acknowledged his sex addiction and he has often publicly joked about his predatory behaviour and sex life.
There were rumours of more sinister behaviour — said to be discussed as an “open secret” by senior TV and radio executives, and among female comedians who warned each other of his behaviour — but the women involved previously felt unable to speak out...
His womanising ways — he once said he could sleep with 80 women in a month — saw him crowned “Shagger of the Year” by The Sun three times.
But the fact remains that some people find the superficially attractive, obvious sex symbol, to be actually attractive and I don't understand that.
I wasn't going to watch it, preferred to watch Ireland v Fuji, glad I did but watched it on plus 1. Brand has never been on my radar because a. I never found him funny and b. he was a creepy dirtbag, like Savile - imagine my surprise when he had that phone call with Savile, I was shocked even more. Dispatches were right to name it IN PLAIN SIGHT. When Sachsgate happened it just confirmed to me how revolting he was, Georgina Baillie suffered the most as a consequence.Martin Y wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:35 pmI must admit I didn't watch the Dispatches documentary. Daughter did and asked me if I wanted to watch it too but I couldn't really bear to. Brand almost immediately struck me as a revolting person and the thought of watching people describe how his horrible behaviour crossed into criminality just depressed me.
The strange thing is that watching susequent chat about him in various places I find myself noticing so much of it is about what a c.nt he is and so little is about what actual crimes might have been committed. I keep momentarily pondering replying along the lines of "Yes, that's vile behaviour but it's not actually breaking any laws". A moment later I collect my wits and don't.
I saw someone on twitter point out that Brand and Ross were made to apologise to Sachs, not to Baillie, even though it was her private sexual history that they had broadcast. All the media coverage I remember at the time was about how appalling it was to treat Sachs that way, nothing about how they treated Baillie.purplehaze wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:10 amWhen Sachsgate happened it just confirmed to me how revolting he was, Georgina Baillie suffered the most as a consequence.
In cases like this, the ones who speak out are often just the tip of the icebergEl Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:50 amSome morons, such as Alan Sugar, are using the fact that four women came forward rather than just one as reason to think it's all a conspiracy. Obviously if only one came forward, those same morons would be claiming that it's just an isolated case and it doesn't matter.
Hopefully, now that a few have gone public, others will be emboldened to raise their voices too.
Indeed, as anyone who's not wilfully being a moron like Alan Sugar would understandTessa K wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:05 amIn cases like this, the ones who speak out are often just the tip of the icebergEl Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:50 amSome morons, such as Alan Sugar, are using the fact that four women came forward rather than just one as reason to think it's all a conspiracy. Obviously if only one came forward, those same morons would be claiming that it's just an isolated case and it doesn't matter.
Hopefully, now that a few have gone public, others will be emboldened to raise their voices too.
Indeed, I listened to 'The News Agents' podcast last night. Rosamund Urwin and Louisa Compton who were part of the team investigating Brand said as much. The investigators said they interviewed several more women with similar tales but they concentrated of these particular 4 cases as they were watertight. Which is as it should be. They are very confident that they will be not challenged legally by Brand.
This is a very good point and I’m ashamed that it didn’t occur to me.Fishnut wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:39 amI saw someone on twitter point out that Brand and Ross were made to apologise to Sachs, not to Baillie, even though it was her private sexual history that they had broadcast. All the media coverage I remember at the time was about how appalling it was to treat Sachs that way, nothing about how they treated Baillie.purplehaze wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:10 amWhen Sachsgate happened it just confirmed to me how revolting he was, Georgina Baillie suffered the most as a consequence.