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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by jimbob » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:57 pm

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Unsurprisingly they found this guy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clywwvkrpexo

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:57 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:55 pm
Unsurprisingly they found this guy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clywwvkrpexo

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Who has a past https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hu ... ns-2262107
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by veravista » Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm

Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:43 am

veravista wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
There’s quite a list here with quite a range of outcomes- They seem to be quite keen on refusing bail. https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/05/everyone ... -21366566/
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by dyqik » Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:01 am

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:43 am
veravista wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
There’s quite a list here with quite a range of outcomes- They seem to be quite keen on refusing bail. https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/05/everyone ... -21366566/
Given the threats of more violence tomorrow, that seems sensible.

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:20 am

dyqik wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:01 am
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:43 am
veravista wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 pm
Well, if you can get 5 years for conspiring to stop the traffic on the M25 (or something like that) then all of these f.ckers should be get 25 years at least.
There’s quite a list here with quite a range of outcomes- They seem to be quite keen on refusing bail. https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/05/everyone ... -21366566/
Given the threats of more violence tomorrow, that seems sensible.
Yup. I think when they started doing the same with Jan 6 protesters it certainly seemed to have a chilling effect on further mass disruption events in the following months
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:01 am

Tory councillor’s wife arrested for Xitter post

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jll3eg33wo

I wonder if she cried
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:48 am

I think these are the first sentences to come in. Three years, 20 months and 30 months.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/art ... -far-right
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:03 pm

This is interesting. YouGov on public reaction to the riots https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/ ... 2024-riots
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by lpm » Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:50 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:03 pm
This is interesting. YouGov on public reaction to the riots https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/ ... 2024-riots
What a confused poll. I've tried to understand the questions but I've no idea what they mean.

I support the recent peaceful protests in the sense that peaceful protests are part of democracy. But what "recent protests" are they referring to? The protests against the rioters hijacking a tragedy? The protests against far right rioters attacking mosques?
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Martin Y » Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:07 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:03 pm
This is interesting. YouGov on public reaction to the riots https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/ ... 2024-riots
It will be interesting to see if the swift flurry of prison sentences being handed out changes those large numbers who thought most perpetrators would probably get away with it.

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:37 pm

Martin Y wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:07 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:03 pm
This is interesting. YouGov on public reaction to the riots https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/ ... 2024-riots
It will be interesting to see if the swift flurry of prison sentences being handed out changes those large numbers who thought most perpetrators would probably get away with it.
I dunno if it will get through their thick skulls

https://x.com/jackfifield/status/182117 ... 95211?s=61
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Brightonian » Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:23 pm

Reception in Brighton (apparently about four fash turned up):
https://x.com/brightonsnapper/status/18 ... 0480815357

Similar in Walthamstow, Bristol, probably other places too

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by jimbob » Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:44 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:23 pm
Reception in Brighton (apparently about four fash turned up):
https://x.com/brightonsnapper/status/18 ... 0480815357

Similar in Walthamstow, Bristol, probably other places too
Here they are

https://x.com/brightonsnapper/status/18 ... 6317631837
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Fishnut » Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:44 pm

Feeling incredibly proud to be (tangentially) a Bristolian right now. Over 2,000 counter-protestors gathered, no signs of the fascists and the police are standing down. One headline on the Bristol Post's live reporting was this:
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Rich Scopie » Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:15 pm

Geordie anti-racist. Surely placard of the day?
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by jimbob » Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:24 pm

Rich Scopie wrote:
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Geordie anti-racist. Surely placard of the day?
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Nice one
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by FlammableFlower » Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:11 pm

Fishnut wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:44 pm
Feeling incredibly proud to be (tangentially) a Bristolian right now. Over 2,000 counter-protestors gathered, no signs of the fascists and the police are standing down. One headline on the Bristol Post's live reporting was this:

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Me too.

Somewhat soured as elsewhere it turns out some pro-palestinians turned up at Airbus to protest at perceived arms involvement with Israel - some employees were attacked and a police officer was hospitalised after he took a sledgehammer blow to his back. This is precisely what the agent provocatuers who stirred up the far right want, more violence to justify their own and escalation.

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:29 pm

bl..dy Hell. Of all the times to use this rhetoric.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz074vyvjzvo
Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been arrested on suspicion of encouraging murder after comments at a London counter-protest.
Videos had emerged online reportedly showing Mr Jones telling a crowd in Walthamstow that far right demonstrators needed to have their throats cut.
What the f.ck was he thinking?
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:48 pm

This is one I’ve been waiting for

https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/08/woman-fi ... -21389346/
The woman accused of being first to spread the fake rumours about the Southport killer which sparked nationwide riots has been arrested.

Racist riots spread across the country after misinformation spread on social media claiming the fatal stabbing was carried out by Ali Al-Shakati, believed to be a fictitious name, a Muslim aslyum seeker who was on an MI6 watchlist.
Apropos of nothing
The businesswoman, who lives in a £1.5million farmhouse in Cheshire, told MailOnline she ‘first received this information from somebody in Southport’.
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by FlammableFlower » Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:00 pm

Take it with a pinch of salt... (and particularly in light of the subject of repeating things without checking)... but reports are that she's been quite prolific in anti-vaxx dissemination and, in its pre-bin fire days, had been kicked off Twitter.

Now that may turn out to be bobbins...

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by bob sterman » Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:04 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y38gjp4ygo
Ms Spofforth had previously shared posts raising questions about lockdown and net-zero climate change measures. However, her profile was temporarily removed by Twitter back in 2021 following allegations she was promoting misinformation about the Covid-19 vaccine and the pandemic. She disputed the claims and said she believed Covid is real.

​​Since Mr Musk’s takeover, her posts have received more than a million views fairly regularly.

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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by jimbob » Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:07 pm

FlammableFlower wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:00 pm
Take it with a pinch of salt... (and particularly in light of the subject of repeating things without checking)... but reports are that she's been quite prolific in anti-vaxx dissemination and, in its pre-bin fire days, had been kicked off Twitter.

Now that may turn out to be bobbins...
If it is her, I'll be happy, given how disingenuous she has been since Covid
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:25 pm

jimbob wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:07 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:00 pm
Take it with a pinch of salt... (and particularly in light of the subject of repeating things without checking)... but reports are that she's been quite prolific in anti-vaxx dissemination and, in its pre-bin fire days, had been kicked off Twitter.

Now that may turn out to be bobbins...
If it is her, I'll be happy, given how disingenuous she has been since Covid
It will be interesting to see whether an investigation exposes whether she was told the false immigrant murder story by someone (she’s told several contradictory stories) or whether there is a more sinister explanation
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Re: Southport attack and riots

Post by Boustrophedon » Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:45 pm

Fishnut wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:44 pm
Feeling incredibly proud to be (tangentially) a Bristolian right now. Over 2,000 counter-protestors gathered, no signs of the fascists and the police are standing down. One headline on the Bristol Post's live reporting was this:

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I can't help but feel that if the English were a little less uptight about doing this all the time then there would be less intolerance.
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