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by shpalman » Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:15 am
discovolante wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:05 am
And I wonder how many men who voted for Trump have wives, sisters or daughters?
This definitely needs a separate thread, even if "Young
Latino men’s views of the Democratic Party were much more negative than in 2020".
https://apnews.com/article/trump-young- ... 5fffabe579
“Young Hispanic men, and really young men in general, they want to feel valued,” said Rafael Struve, deputy communications director for Bienvenido, a conservative group that focused on reaching young Hispanic voters for Republicans this year. “They’re looking for someone who fights for them, who sees their potential and not just their struggles.”
Trump framed much of his campaign as a pitch to men who felt scorned by the country’s economy, culture and political system. Young women also slightly swung toward the former president, though not to the degree of their male counterparts.
Democrat Kamala Harris’ campaign rolled out policy agendas tailored to Black and Latino men, and the campaign enlisted a range of leaders in Black and Hispanic communities to make the case for the vice president. Her campaign began with a flurry of enthusiasm from many young voters, epitomized in memes and the campaign’s embrace of pop culture trends like the pop star Charli XCX’s “brat” aesthetic. Democrats hoped to channel that energy into their youth voter mobilization efforts.
“I think most young voters just didn’t hear the message,” said Santiago Mayer, executive director of Voters of Tomorrow, a liberal group that engages younger voters. Mayer said the Harris campaign’s pitch to the country was “largely convoluted” and centered on economic messaging that he said wasn’t easily conveyed to younger voters who were not already coming to political media.
“And I think that the policies themselves were also very narrow and targeted when what we really needed was a simple, bold economic vision,” said Mayer.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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by headshot » Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:17 am
Santiago Mayer should run in the election for Mayor of Santiago.
I love that the criticism of the campaign is that the economic policies were too granular and detailed, when the consistent criticism DURING the campaign was that it was light on detail.
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by dyqik » Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:28 am
What no one will admit is that the election result isn't down to policies or campaigns, but vague vibes among political näives that they think that their grocery prices went up because of the president at the time.
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by Martin_B » Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:47 am
dyqik wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:28 am
What no one will admit is that the election result isn't down to policies or campaigns, but vague vibes among political näives that they think that their grocery prices went up because of the president at the time.
As opposed to political näives who thought that pulling out of the EU would mean that the Conservative government would spend an extra 350 million a week on the NHS
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by dyqik » Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:44 pm
headshot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:17 am
Santiago Mayer should run in the election for Mayor of Santiago.
I love that the criticism of the campaign is that the economic policies were too granular and detailed, when the consistent criticism DURING the campaign was that it was light on detail.
There's a big difference between what political reporters want to see and write about, and what low information swing voters pay attention to.
The former will write heavy criticism of Democrats if they don't get fully costed detailed spending plans, and will write heavy criticism of Democrats for being out of touch with swing voters if they get those plans.
Meanwhile, the actual swing voters mainly see the odd headline on TV news chyrons in a diner or bar.
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by Woodchopper » Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:51 am
dyqik wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:44 pm
headshot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:17 am
Santiago Mayer should run in the election for Mayor of Santiago.
I love that the criticism of the campaign is that the economic policies were too granular and detailed, when the consistent criticism DURING the campaign was that it was light on detail.
There's a big difference between what political reporters want to see and write about, and what low information swing voters pay attention to.
The former will write heavy criticism of Democrats if they don't get fully costed detailed spending plans, and will write heavy criticism of Democrats for being out of touch with swing voters if they get those plans.
Meanwhile, the actual swing voters mainly see the odd headline on TV news chyrons in a diner or bar.
Certainly, I expect that only about 5% of the US population often gets news from text based news sites that employ political reporters. For the rest its social media, TV and radio. Sites like the New York Times are influential due to the type of reader rather than the numbers of subscribers.