After Corbyn

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Who will be the next Labour leader?

Angela Rayner
4
5%
John McDonnell
2
2%
Keir Starmer
44
52%
Rebecca Long-Bailey
8
10%
Emily Thornberry
0
No votes
Clive Lewis
1
1%
Yvette Cooper
17
20%
Laura Pidcock
1
1%
Clive Lewis
0
No votes
Tony Blair
7
8%
 
Total votes: 84

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by bjn » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:30 pm

Did my voting for party leader today. Still thinking of who I should vote for deputy.

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by jimbob » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:24 pm

bjn wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:30 pm
Did my voting for party leader today. Still thinking of who I should vote for deputy.
I went for Allin-Khan on the grounds that Mccluskey doesn't like her.

Then Murray

Then Dawn Butler (a distant third for me)
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:19 am

Haven't had my voting forms yet. Hmm.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by jimbob » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:34 am

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:19 am
Haven't had my voting forms yet. Hmm.
Mine came by email
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:48 am

Yeah, just had a look and mine did as well. In the end, I went for Starmer first over Nandy, as I reasoned that Nandy isn't going to win (she just isn't), and even though she's probably my first choice in reality, the most important thing is the message of how much Starmer wins by. I didn't vote for Why-The-Long-Bailey.

For deputy, I went for Allin-Khan first (largely because of voting for a man for leader first) and then Murray second. Rayner third, Butler fourth. Not at all for Burgon, because he's a f.cking pillock.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Matatouille » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:39 am

My ballot has yet to arrive, by email or post. I'll give it a couple of days and give them a poke. My wife has a funny forrin name and they claim they can't find her on the electoral roll, so unless she finds a polling card lying around in a pile of papers* we need to get the council to confirm she's on the roll or she won't get to vote for Labour leader.

*unlikely, we tend to shred unnecessary documents that have any details useful for ID theft on them.

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Cardinal Fang » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:06 pm

I seem to have vote the same way as a lot here - Starmer then Nandy for leader, Allin-Khan then Murray second. Anyone getting a McClusky nod automatically got dropped off my list

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by snoozeofreason » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:30 am

I got a perplexing email from Ian Murray today:
Ian Murray wrote:I am Scotland's only Labour MP. And here's a fact: if we only return one Scottish Labour MP again at the next General Election, we will have to defeat the Tories in every single constituency all the way down to Jacob Rees-Mogg's seat in North East Somerset.
He's got a point, but it took me about five minutes to work out what "All the way down to Jacob Rees-Mogg's seat in North East Somerset," was supposed to mean, and I'm still not sure I've got it right (my guess is that he was thinking of all seats where the Conservative majority is equal to or less that JRMs). If I did end up voting for him, it wouldn't be for his communication skills.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:10 am

If Scotland votes to stay in the UK in the next referendum, Labour and the SNP really need to find points of commonality if the Tories are ever to be defeated again.
So needless to say, I'm odds and ends again
But it's me stumbling away, slowly learning that life is o.k.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:18 pm

snoozeofreason wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:30 am
I got a perplexing email from Ian Murray today:
Ian Murray wrote:I am Scotland's only Labour MP. And here's a fact: if we only return one Scottish Labour MP again at the next General Election, we will have to defeat the Tories in every single constituency all the way down to Jacob Rees-Mogg's seat in North East Somerset.
He's got a point, but it took me about five minutes to work out what "All the way down to Jacob Rees-Mogg's seat in North East Somerset," was supposed to mean, and I'm still not sure I've got it right (my guess is that he was thinking of all seats where the Conservative majority is equal to or less that JRMs). If I did end up voting for him, it wouldn't be for his communication skills.
It might make less sense in his email, and your guess is correct, but listen to him on Nick Robinson's political thinking podcast. He's a very good communicator, and someone I'd want to see in the shadow cabinet.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:19 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:10 am
If Scotland votes to stay in the UK in the next referendum, Labour and the SNP really need to find points of commonality if the Tories are ever to be defeated again.
Yeah but 1979 innit
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:28 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:19 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:10 am
If Scotland votes to stay in the UK in the next referendum, Labour and the SNP really need to find points of commonality if the Tories are ever to be defeated again.
Yeah but 1979 innit
I prefer Today
So needless to say, I'm odds and ends again
But it's me stumbling away, slowly learning that life is o.k.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:40 pm

well it's better now that the Tories are boycotting it but no one needs that sh.t in the morning, really.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:47 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:40 pm
well it's better now that the Tories are boycotting it but no one needs that sh.t in the morning, really.
Tories are boycotting Smashing Pumpkins?! f.ck I'm out of the loop.
So needless to say, I'm odds and ends again
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by dyqik » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:00 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:47 pm
El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:40 pm
well it's better now that the Tories are boycotting it but no one needs that sh.t in the morning, really.
Tories are boycotting Smashing Pumpkins?! f.ck I'm out of the loop.
Kind of surprising, what with Billy Corgan going all Trumpist in 2016.

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Woodchopper » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:23 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:10 am
If Scotland votes to stay in the UK in the next referendum, Labour and the SNP really need to find points of commonality if the Tories are ever to be defeated again.
Scotland isn't that important. Its only got about 10% of UK MPs. All of Blair's victories, plus Wilson in 1964 and Attlee in 1945 would still have occurred without any of the Scottish MPs. To win Labour needs to get a majority in England, if it does that Scotland probably won't be needed anyway.

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by snoozeofreason » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:08 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:18 pm
It might make less sense in his email, and your guess is correct, but listen to him on Nick Robinson's political thinking podcast. He's a very good communicator, and someone I'd want to see in the shadow cabinet.
Will take this up. I had been thinking of giving him my vote until Mrs. Snooze pointed out that Starmer will almost certainly get the leadership (even though he is not getting any votes from the Snooze family), which means that, if Murray is his deputy, we've ended up with two white men, which isn't great.

Also I am worried about jinxing myself. Mrs. S. and I have been referring to him as "The Scottish Candidate" on the pretence that it would be unlucky to say his name. It wasn't a very funny joke to start off with and now that we have kept it up for a bit I am starting to feel as if it really would be unlucky.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Grumble » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:05 pm

Right, I need to vote in the labour leadership election - received my ballot a few days ago. Wasn’t sure if I was going to get one. I note that Lisa Nandy was endorsed by my local association. She hasn’t got a chance has she?
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:21 am

Not really no. Starmer should win it. I was minded to vote for Nandy but in the end decided that Starmer would likely win it on the first round, and to shut the Corbynite wazzocks up thought it best he get as good a mandate as possible, so went for him as no. 1. I went for Allin-Khan as deputy first choice.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by bjn » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:55 am

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:21 am
Not really no. Starmer should win it. I was minded to vote for Nandy but in the end decided that Starmer would likely win it on the first round, and to shut the Corbynite wazzocks up thought it best he get as good a mandate as possible, so went for him as no. 1. I went for Allin-Khan as deputy first choice.
Ditto.

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Re: After Corbyn

Post by jimbob » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:16 pm

bjn wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:55 am
El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:21 am
Not really no. Starmer should win it. I was minded to vote for Nandy but in the end decided that Starmer would likely win it on the first round, and to shut the Corbynite wazzocks up thought it best he get as good a mandate as possible, so went for him as no. 1. I went for Allin-Khan as deputy first choice.
Ditto.
Likewise
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by TopBadger » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:58 pm

Whatever happened to this? Was kinda expecting something before now...
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by Grumble » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:13 pm

Votes have to be in by 2 April
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:01 pm

So, the leadership election which was so long that empires rose and fell, economies were brought to ruin, and the apocalypse happened in the middle of it, has finally ended.

No result until Saturday, though, soz. That's the Labour WayTM.
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Re: After Corbyn

Post by nekomatic » Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:01 am

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:01 pm
No result until Saturday, though, soz. That's the Labour WayTM.
They have to count them now. Duh.

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