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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:53 pm

Seems like they'd have to reorganise their supply chains to have goods arriving via RoI. Probably a good opportunity for Irish supermarkets to expand north of the border.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Woodchopper » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:42 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:53 pm
Seems like they'd have to reorganise their supply chains to have goods arriving via RoI. Probably a good opportunity for Irish supermarkets to expand north of the border.
That’ll take time though. Probably years.

Supermarkets sourcing goods from RoI is probably the near term answer. Though Northern Irish consumers would have to get used to different brands (not the end of the world but might lead to some resentment). And there might still be supply problems until production could be increased.

Northern Irish consumers will also be able to drive across the border and buy food.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:06 pm

Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:42 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:53 pm
Seems like they'd have to reorganise their supply chains to have goods arriving via RoI. Probably a good opportunity for Irish supermarkets to expand north of the border.
That’ll take time though. Probably years.
Well they've had four already ;) I'd be surprised if they haven't at least come up with a back-of-the-envelope plan. Off the top of my head, they could try to reduce the number of different types of products in each truck to simplify paperwork, probably offset by storing larger quantities in NI.

No solution will be free, of course, and the cost will be passed on to consumers, which is bad.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:09 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:06 pm
No solution will be free, of course, and the cost will be passed on to consumers, which is bad.
But remember. We all knew what we were voting for.

Who can forget the famous Vote Leave bus with “Higher prices, more paperwork, a return to the Troubles” on the side of it?

One of Cummings’ more effective slogans IMHO.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TopBadger » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:47 am

NI voted to remain.

England carried the leave vote... and given those little englanders did not stop to consider the impact of Brexit on Kent its clear they also couldn't give a single f*ck about NI.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by AMS » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:08 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:42 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:53 pm
Seems like they'd have to reorganise their supply chains to have goods arriving via RoI. Probably a good opportunity for Irish supermarkets to expand north of the border.
That’ll take time though. Probably years.

Supermarkets sourcing goods from RoI is probably the near term answer. Though Northern Irish consumers would have to get used to different brands (not the end of the world but might lead to some resentment). And there might still be supply problems until production could be increased.

Northern Irish consumers will also be able to drive across the border and buy food.
Tesco already operate stores in RoI, so they may already be set up this way.

One problem with the "drive across the border" option is that Belfast and Derry are much bigger cities than any of the towns just across the border, so there's a store capacity issue to this.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:32 pm

Fishing industry is hugely concerned about non-tariff barriers come Jan 1st

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcmartynoat ... 5614495744

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by veravista » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:34 pm

But, but, but. That only works if the 'border' is in the Irish Sea. Otherwise it's tantamount to corporate smuggling.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by bjn » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:07 pm

plodder wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:32 pm
Fishing industry is hugely concerned about non-tariff barriers come Jan 1st

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcmartynoat ... 5614495744
Oh the irony, given the way the fishermen voted and the continual Brexit blah about U.K. fishing waters.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:21 pm

Well, yes.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:24 pm

bjn wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:07 pm
plodder wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:32 pm
Fishing industry is hugely concerned about non-tariff barriers come Jan 1st

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcmartynoat ... 5614495744
Oh the irony, given the way the fishermen voted and the continual Brexit blah about U.K. fishing waters.
Yes, my brother told me that would happen specifically about fishing in 2016.

Some of his close colleagues in the Welsh Assembly service also do fishery work
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:56 am

Update by the excellent Tony Connelly: https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status ... 4496227328

Still no agreement on level playing field, governance, fish. Draft treaty text is over 600 pages. Seriously running short of time for the EU parliament to ratify it by the end of the year. There might be another week, but at some point soon the EU parliament committees are going to refuse to take it.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:03 am

Reading the various accounts of Cummings and Cain over the weekend, it was striking that there was little mention of EU strategy. So it looks like the two just managed to piss off too many people. Foolish of me to think that there was a guiding intelligence behind the events.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by JQH » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:09 am

Slight derail on the Cummings & Cain departure: Cabinet ministers had been refusing to be interviewed on GMB since April. Today Matt Hancock appeared. Piers Morgan puts this down to Cummings and Cain going ...


Seriously? Were these two deciding Government policy?
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Martin Y » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:10 am

A FB Brexiteer told me it's a storm in a teacup as both men said they hoped their work would be finished by the end of 2020 so it's all going to plan and this is just a load of Guardianista sh.t-stirring nonsense. You can imagine my relief at learning all of it is planned.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:22 am

JQH wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:09 am
Slight derail on the Cummings & Cain departure: Cabinet ministers had been refusing to be interviewed on GMB since April. Today Matt Hancock appeared. Piers Morgan puts this down to Cummings and Cain going ...


Seriously? Were these two deciding Government policy?
Apparently yes. Tales in the press that Cummings sat in on Johnson's meetings, and stayed behind to talk to Johnson afterwards. It kinda looks a bit like he rebelled against the man who'd been bullying him.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by FlammableFlower » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:42 am

I was rather put in mind of last night's episode His Dark Materials, with Mrs Coulter and Father MacPhail...

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by headshot » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:43 am

I prefer the slightly brat-ish, sulky teenager vibe of Grima. He captures the snivelling, creepy essence of Cummings very well.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:49 am

Martin Y wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:10 am
their work would be finished
And did they expand on exactly what that was, with the Brexit negotiations entering their final few weeks with everything from a crash-out no-deal to yet another round of can-kicking still on the table?
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:10 pm

headshot wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:43 am
I prefer the slightly brat-ish, sulky teenager vibe of Grima. He captures the snivelling, creepy essence of Cummings very well.
I was saying how Americans have "seeing-eye dogs" - Johnson needs a "thinking-brain goblin"
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TimW » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:57 pm

jimbob wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:24 pm
Yes, my brother told me that would happen specifically about fishing in 2016.
Well, his MISTAKE, obviously is in not READING the Express, which DECLARES:
Satirical publication's HEADLINE wrote:Fishing deal landed! Boris signs ANOTHER bumper agreement in warning to EU
Needless to say the future of UK fisheries is all sorted out!! Obviously we don't need the EU!!
Why exactly?
Satirical publication's ARTICLE wrote:Number 10 says the agreement will establish a UK-Iceland Fisheries Dialogue, where both countries can share best practice and cooperate.
RESULT!

ETA!:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... is-johnson

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:15 pm

Good summary of the ratification issues: https://twitter.com/GeorginaEWright/sta ... 83553?s=20

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