Getting Brexit done

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by dyqik » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:51 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:39 pm
dyqik wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:19 pm
Gentleman Jim wrote:
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Who is going to work all these 3D printers?
In this school, in common with a majority, I believe, D&T is now very, very biased to the design side
Generally that's what 3d printers need. Plus a bit of fiddling to get them to work, and then 48 hours to make a small weak plastic doodad that needs a huge amount of sanding and finishing to turn it into anything useful.

Oh, and PLA or ABS fibre.
That PLA and ABS stuff is presumably imported though.

Oh wait! We can just 3D print that! And we can just 3D print the printers too – simply program one to print itself out if we don't have one to hand.
I can't wait to see Andrew Neil trying to get a 3D printer with a extrude nozzle made from PLA to work.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TopBadger » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:08 pm

plodder wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:11 am
The EU's position will be formally published today, so that will help.
EU wants tariff-free and quota-free trade deal and willing to offer that on condition UK accepts level paying field terms on standards.

What I wasn't aware of is that the political declaration said there should be a deal on fisheries by July 1st - and that getting that resolved is seen as a pre-condition for any subsequent deals. So this could blow up quicker than expected. Clever ploy though - this will test whether MP DIck is really willing to walk away (that key negotiating strategy) and if so then the rest of the talks are likely done.

So WTO it'll be...
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:55 pm

The No 10 press office has started doing Brexit commentary on twitter.

https://twitter.com/Number10press/statu ... 3526969345

Quite a firm line they're taking.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Sciolus » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:19 pm

Little waster wrote:
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Loads of people moaned we won't have any radioactive isotopes for cancer treatments. They didn't believe in Brexit enough. We are going to 3D print all the radioactive isotopes we need.
Can we use the same printer to print food or will we have to purchase (print?) a second one?
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TopBadger » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:21 am

UK considering walking away from talks in June.

Seems likely given fishery policy needs to be done by about then to get to further talks and Boris doesn't want to be seen to climb down.

What's interesting to me is that we don't even appear to be close to getting a 'Canada' deal - that once seemed a likely outcome short of no deal. What I've seen recently in UK media suggests that the EU is walking back from a prior offer in punishment. But 'Canada+' has different definitions of the '+'. For the UK it was greater freedom and continued service provision, for the EU it was keeping alignment. It's not a new difference - was discussed two years ago. Seems to be coming to a head real quickly now though.

Business might yet be satisfied if our competitiveness does increase outside the block. Whether those that supported Brexit will be satisfied is another matter because an increase in competitiveness for business will likely mean a reduction in pay and conditions for everyone else.

Good strategy from Tories though - if they see it through and cut regulations to keep business and it works with the left still divided, then PM Dick might get another term. If Labour win and start adding back lost protections and we lose businesses -as a result then it'll be "Labour wrecked the post-Brexit economy".
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TopBadger » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm

Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:52 pm

TopBadger wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
Which presumably resembles the Fire Swamp in the Princess Bride.

Although I don’t think the Chlorinated Chickens of Unusual Size exist ...
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Vertigowooyay » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:01 pm

TopBadger wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
But...but... they said the chances of no deal were a million to one!

(there is no way of constructing that sentence without the accompanying Jeff Wayne earworm. Sorry.)
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Fishnut » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:09 pm

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:01 pm
TopBadger wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
But...but... they said the chances of no deal were a million to one!

(there is no way of constructing that sentence without the accompanying Jeff Wayne earworm. Sorry.)
Million to one chances happen nine times out of ten, at least on the Discworld. Maybe that flat-earth guy was onto something after all.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:33 pm

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:01 pm
TopBadger wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
But...but... they said the chances of no deal were a million to one!

(there is no way of constructing that sentence without the accompanying Jeff Wayne earworm. Sorry.)
This must be some definition of “oven-ready deal” that I’m unfamiliar with.

I for one am shocked at how the negotiations are going, shocked I say.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TopBadger » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:22 pm

It's an oven ready dog turd pie - but oddly the EU don't want it put in their oven... so we're having cold dog turd pie and everyone gets a slice.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by dyqik » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:11 pm

Little waster wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:33 pm

This must be some definition of “oven-ready deal” that I’m unfamiliar with.
"Oven ready" like the "bake at home" bread you get in supermarkets: half-baked.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by JQH » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:01 pm
TopBadger wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
But...but... they said the chances of no deal were a million to one!

(there is no way of constructing that sentence without the accompanying Jeff Wayne earworm. Sorry.)
As Terry Pratchet pointed out in "Guards, Guards", million to one chances occur nine times out of ten.

ETA I really should read to the end of the thread before posting.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by cvb » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:02 am

JQH wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:48 pm
Vertigowooyay wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:01 pm
TopBadger wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
Given Gove's statement today it looks almost certain that we're headed to the sunlit uplands of WTO...
But...but... they said the chances of no deal were a million to one!

(there is no way of constructing that sentence without the accompanying Jeff Wayne earworm. Sorry.)
As Terry Pratchet pointed out in "Guards, Guards", million to one chances occur nine times out of ten.

ETA I really should read to the end of the thread before posting.
That's on Discworld where they have a more sensible outlook on such things.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:28 am

I read somewhere that we've got fishing policy commitments to make by June, which we'll renege on, so that's why June's the "deadline" for our giving up and walking away.

So depressing.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plebian » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:36 am

It's going to be no deal. At least they'll spend the remaining 6 months gearing up for it.

If so, Irish terrorism and the coronavirus make the civil contingencies act look more and more likely.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Gentleman Jim » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:00 am

Someone naively asked why Big Bad Boris hadn't visited the flooded ares lately, when last Novenber, he visited lots of places
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Trinucleus » Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:13 pm

Gentleman Jim wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:00 am
Someone naively asked why Big Bad Boris hadn't visited the flooded ares lately, when last Novenber, he visited lots of places
He only came to the Tory heartlands of South Yorkshire

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Gentleman Jim » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:56 am

Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:59 pm

The EU are potentially going to also be pushing us towards No Deal if the demands in this article are accurate:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... aft-treaty

Don't see the European Court holding sway over Canada for example.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by dyqik » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:43 am

Gentleman Jim wrote:
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Post Brexit Dystopia - the Game

Well, it had to come :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Dogs:_Legion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technolog ... rexit-game
I'll get to it when I'm finished with Pandemic.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by bmforre » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:07 am

dyqik wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:43 am
Gentleman Jim wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:56 am
Post Brexit Dystopia - the Game

Well, it had to come :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Dogs:_Legion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technolog ... rexit-game
I'll get to it when I'm finished with Pandemic.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Stephanie » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:33 pm

This thread just seems quaint now
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by lpm » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:35 pm

The things we used to care about.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Martin Y » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:42 pm

Yeah, the idea that we had so few problems we had to create self-inflicted ones seems so last decade now.

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