Getting Brexit done

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Opti » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:22 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:02 pm
I'm not sure if that helps, since presumably the ability of those companies to operate GBP-EUR transfers across borders is also based on UK-EU agreements. I read yesterday (disclaimer: on Facebook) that Revolut is moving its payment operations to Lithuania precisely for this reason. TransferWise is still headquartered in London AFAIK.

Also, many people will be using their UK banks for more than just the odd £1,000 transfer for pensions or council tax. Some will have an entire lifetime of savings and investment plans there, while living elsewhere.

(I don't think I would move any substantial amount of long-term money to Lithuania. It's a bit close to several hundred Russian tanks for my liking.)
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:25 pm

GBP- EUR transfers aren't becoming illegal or impossible, just more complicated and more expensive. It might not be worth big banks chasing that small niche, but I bet some specialist company will fill the gap, and I think the most likely candidates are ones already specialising in cross-country movements and currency conversion.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Brightonian » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:14 pm

Truckers will have to get "Kent Access Permits" to enter Kent. So presumably a lorry from Northampton delivering Weetabix to Whitstable will need one too. A bit like the internal borders in the Soviet Union.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:22 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Truckers will have to get "Kent Access Permits" to enter Kent. So presumably a lorry from Northampton delivering Weetabix to Whitstable will need one too. A bit like the internal borders in the Soviet Union.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:46 pm

More confirmation that the border is the EUs problem:

https://mobile.twitter.com/sturdyAlex/s ... 0044368898

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:47 pm

From Twitter
BREAKING:

Elstree Studios have commissioned an updated remake of an old favourite:

Passport to Pembury
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by tenchboy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:06 pm

jimbob wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:47 pm
From Twitter
BREAKING:

Elstree Studios have commissioned an updated remake of an old favourite:

Passport to Pembury
Further down...
we've had enough of exports

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:19 pm

tenchboy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:06 pm
jimbob wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:47 pm
From Twitter
BREAKING:

Elstree Studios have commissioned an updated remake of an old favourite:

Passport to Pembury
Further down...
we've had enough of exports
OK, can everyone check their “2020 is a dumpster-fire” bingo cards to see if anyone had “Kent being ejected from the UK”.

It should be somewhere between “Jedward become epidemiology experts” and “Japan unveils its first operational Giant Mecha robot”.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Martin_B » Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 am

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Truckers will have to get "Kent Access Permits" to enter Kent. So presumably a lorry from Northampton delivering Weetabix to Whitstable will need one too. A bit like the internal borders in the Soviet Union.
I want these Kent Access Permits to come as lightweight headgear with a peak.

Or possibly re-name them Kent Access Permits - Priority Access, and use a certain clothing manufacturer to produce them.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by dyqik » Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:50 am

Martin_B wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 am
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Truckers will have to get "Kent Access Permits" to enter Kent. So presumably a lorry from Northampton delivering Weetabix to Whitstable will need one too. A bit like the internal borders in the Soviet Union.
I want these Kent Access Permits to come as lightweight headgear with a peak.

Or possibly re-name them Kent Access Permits - Priority Access, and use a certain clothing manufacturer to produce them.
I've seen a suggested name for emergency or high priority ones that give Rapid Access...

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by JQH » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:15 pm

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:32 pm

I had said earlier that the UK's negotiating position was akin to saying "If you don't give us what we want, we'll saw our foot off and bleed on your doorstep" Whereupon the EU started putting polythene sheeting up on their doorstep. I hadn't realised it would involve threatening to bleed in our own kitchen and blame the EU.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by dyqik » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:31 pm

jimbob wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:32 pm
I had said earlier that the UK's negotiating position was akin to saying "If you don't give us what we want, we'll saw our foot off and bleed on your doorstep" Whereupon the EU started putting polythene sheeting up on their doorstep. I hadn't realised it would involve threatening to bleed in our own kitchen and blame the EU.
Garden rather than kitchen, no? ;)

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:36 pm

dyqik wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:31 pm
jimbob wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:32 pm
I had said earlier that the UK's negotiating position was akin to saying "If you don't give us what we want, we'll saw our foot off and bleed on your doorstep" Whereupon the EU started putting polythene sheeting up on their doorstep. I hadn't realised it would involve threatening to bleed in our own kitchen and blame the EU.
Garden rather than kitchen, no? ;)
I *did* wonder about that, but thought it wasn't really accurate enough for the mess it described.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:45 pm

dyqik wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:50 am
Martin_B wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 am
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:14 pm
Truckers will have to get "Kent Access Permits" to enter Kent. So presumably a lorry from Northampton delivering Weetabix to Whitstable will need one too. A bit like the internal borders in the Soviet Union.
I want these Kent Access Permits to come as lightweight headgear with a peak.

Or possibly re-name them Kent Access Permits - Priority Access, and use a certain clothing manufacturer to produce them.
I've seen a suggested name for emergency or high priority ones that give Rapid Access...
Jonathan Pie has suggested "Kermit". I can actually see that one sticking. "Off to Dover now. Got my thermos and Yorkie. Now where did I put my Kermit?"
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TimW » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:25 am

News from 2017
The Express wrote:BORIS Johnson has vowed to free Britain from “burdensome” red tape as the country’s divorce from the European Union (EU) finally gets underway with Theresa May’s triggering of Article 50.

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Post by Vertigowooyay » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:17 pm

Not strictly Brexit but another example of installing the hard right to f.ck the country - it looks like Ofcom will be headed up by Daily Mail bastards Paul Dacre and Charles Moore. Kiss goodbye to independent scrutiny.

Ffs.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by headshot » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:54 pm

Everything this Govt does is the worst possible option isn’t it?

Could there possibly be a worse choice?

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Post by nekomatic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:00 pm

David Allen Green on Twitter says
Suspect whoever in Number 10 briefing 'Dacre for Ofcom' knows nothing about Ofcom

- Chair has no separate power, Board does
- Board appointments subject to open process
- Does not regulate newspapers or online news providers
- Mainly techie telecomy work
- He'd be bored witless
https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/sta ... 38208?s=21

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Post by jdc » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:49 pm

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:17 pm
Not strictly Brexit but another example of installing the hard right to f.ck the country - it looks like Ofcom will be headed up by Daily Mail bastards Paul Dacre and Charles Moore. Kiss goodbye to independent scrutiny.

Ffs.
It's much better than that. One's for Ofcom and the other's for the BBC: "Dowden said it was too early to comment on the possibility of Charles Moore, a former Telegraph editor, being made BBC chairman, and the ex-editor of the Daily Mail Paul Dacre becoming head of Ofcom, the media regulator."

And, as the Guardian note, Moore was a Telegraph bastard not a Daily Mail bastard.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Vertigowooyay » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:16 am

jdc wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:49 pm
Vertigowooyay wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:17 pm
Not strictly Brexit but another example of installing the hard right to f.ck the country - it looks like Ofcom will be headed up by Daily Mail bastards Paul Dacre and Charles Moore. Kiss goodbye to independent scrutiny.

Ffs.
It's much better than that. One's for Ofcom and the other's for the BBC: "Dowden said it was too early to comment on the possibility of Charles Moore, a former Telegraph editor, being made BBC chairman, and the ex-editor of the Daily Mail Paul Dacre becoming head of Ofcom, the media regulator."

And, as the Guardian note, Moore was a Telegraph bastard not a Daily Mail bastard.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:49 pm

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/8 ... t=19:22:26

"Madam Deputy Speaker, when the Trump administration starts expressing concern about your adherence to international agreements and the rule of law, you know you are in trouble"

Ed Miliband then went on to quote Theresa May's criticism of the bill.
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Post by Vertigowooyay » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:07 pm

Just to be crystal clear, earlier the government opposed and voted down a clause which “requires ministers to respect the rule of law and uphold the independence of the courts”

Respecting the rule of law. Upholding the independence of the courts. Opposed. The government opposed this.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by FlammableFlower » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:22 pm

We are well and truly through the looking glass and out the other side.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plodder » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:42 am

We are also getting loads of laws by ministerial decree at the moment. I know there’s disquiet on the back benches but that’s not particularly helping in a practical sense.

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