Would have been interesting to see Justin Amash on that list. It would have made it harder to spin as a partisan hit job.
Trump Impeachment
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Today, all times Eastern Foreign Time:
11 a.m. Pelosi press conf
Noon: House impeachment managers read out the articles of impeachment
2 p.m: Roberts sworn in
Followed by: Senators take oath
Then off on long weekend (Monday is MLK day), back on Tuesday for the start of the trial - with vote on witnesses etc then.
11 a.m. Pelosi press conf
Noon: House impeachment managers read out the articles of impeachment
2 p.m: Roberts sworn in
Followed by: Senators take oath
Then off on long weekend (Monday is MLK day), back on Tuesday for the start of the trial - with vote on witnesses etc then.
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I wonder how many more document dumps there'll be before then.
BTW, the Government Accountability Office has just ruled that withholding the aid from Ukraine for any reason at all was illegal, so there goes the "no laws were broken" argument. It's not the most serious offence, mind.
BTW, the Government Accountability Office has just ruled that withholding the aid from Ukraine for any reason at all was illegal, so there goes the "no laws were broken" argument. It's not the most serious offence, mind.
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Says there's no realistic way to get a Special Prosecutor to investigate the criminal conspiracy as Barr himself is one of the criminals. Which means the next stage after Trump is acquitted would be to impeach Barr.
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Or before Trump is acquitted. Just jam the Senate with impeachments - Pompeo seems ripe for one, and if Parnas' interview claims pan out, then Pence is up as well.
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According to Fox News logic, there’s no way Trump can have a fair trial if incriminating evidence keeps appearing.
Calm yourself Doctor NotTheNineO’ClockNews. We’re men of science. We fear no worldly terrors.
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Oh look, Parnas has made a direct link to Nunes, who previously had no knowledge of any discussions with his aide and Parnas about digging dirt. Suddenly his memory is refreshed by phone records...
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And who was the senior Republican on the investigation in the House, and didn't recuse himself.FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:26 amOh look, Parnas has made a direct link to Nunes, who previously had no knowledge of any discussions with his aide and Parnas about digging dirt. Suddenly his memory is refreshed by phone records...
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Couldn't possibly be Devin Nunes?dyqik wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:07 pm... who was the senior Republican on the investigation in the House, and didn't recuse himself ?FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:26 amOh look, Parnas has made a direct link to Nunes, who previously had no knowledge of any discussions with his aide and Parnas about digging dirt. Suddenly his memory is refreshed by phone records...
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And Romney folds.
Makes 5 times he's mumbled about opposing Trump extremism, then wimping out and meekly doing what he's told.
Makes 5 times he's mumbled about opposing Trump extremism, then wimping out and meekly doing what he's told.
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Mitch is proposing having untelevised hearings at 1am! Wow, there couldn't be anything there he doesn't want the American public to see, could there?
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McConnell was always going to control the process, as long as he had the votes. Seems he does, as predicted. Nothing about this was ever about justice, it's only about counting up to 51. This is not a surprise.
Just tell 'em I'm broke and don't come round here no more.
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The Republicans had this opportunity to get rid of a criminal with dementia who thinks the wheel was invented in the USA.
They declined to take it.
They are going to be regretting this in 6 months, when their guy is missing from the campaign trail and they're trying to defend Senators who will look corrupt, or stupid, or corrupt and stupid.
They declined to take it.
They are going to be regretting this in 6 months, when their guy is missing from the campaign trail and they're trying to defend Senators who will look corrupt, or stupid, or corrupt and stupid.
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That's the thing. They can hide impeachment but as Trump deteriorates, it's quite possible that he'll actually admit to it on TV in such a way that even the republicans won't be able to explain it away. Probably whilst expressing contempt for his base.lpm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:49 pmThe Republicans had this opportunity to get rid of a criminal with dementia who thinks the wheel was invented in the USA.
They declined to take it.
They are going to be regretting this in 6 months, when their guy is missing from the campaign trail and they're trying to defend Senators who will look corrupt, or stupid, or corrupt and stupid.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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https://www.independent.co.uk/us/voices ... 11546.htmlSondland confirmed that the answer to lawmakers’ question about whether there had been a quid pro quo conditioning of military aid on Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky’s willingness to initiate investigations into a conspiracy theory about the 2016 election and former vice president Joe Biden, Texas Republican Mike Conaway put his head in his hand and kept it there.
The Republicans, it appeared, had no idea that Sondland – a Trump ally who’d been appointed to be America’s man in Brussels after making a $1m donation to the Trump inaugural committee – was going to throw Trump, Perry, Giuliani, Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the entire Trump team under the proverbial bus.
But Sondland did. Under the bus they went.
“Everyone was in the loop,” he said. “It was no secret.”
Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools.
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That's from Wednesday 20 November 2019Gentleman Jim wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:35 amhttps://www.independent.co.uk/us/voices ... 11546.htmlSondland confirmed that the answer to lawmakers’ question about whether there had been a quid pro quo conditioning of military aid on Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky’s willingness to initiate investigations into a conspiracy theory about the 2016 election and former vice president Joe Biden, Texas Republican Mike Conaway put his head in his hand and kept it there.
The Republicans, it appeared, had no idea that Sondland – a Trump ally who’d been appointed to be America’s man in Brussels after making a $1m donation to the Trump inaugural committee – was going to throw Trump, Perry, Giuliani, Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the entire Trump team under the proverbial bus.
But Sondland did. Under the bus they went.
“Everyone was in the loop,” he said. “It was no secret.”
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cvb wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:01 amThat's from Wednesday 20 November 2019Gentleman Jim wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:35 amhttps://www.independent.co.uk/us/voices ... 11546.htmlSondland confirmed that the answer to lawmakers’ question about whether there had been a quid pro quo conditioning of military aid on Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky’s willingness to initiate investigations into a conspiracy theory about the 2016 election and former vice president Joe Biden, Texas Republican Mike Conaway put his head in his hand and kept it there.
The Republicans, it appeared, had no idea that Sondland – a Trump ally who’d been appointed to be America’s man in Brussels after making a $1m donation to the Trump inaugural committee – was going to throw Trump, Perry, Giuliani, Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the entire Trump team under the proverbial bus.
But Sondland did. Under the bus they went.
“Everyone was in the loop,” he said. “It was no secret.”
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Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools.
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There'll be no surprises from witnesses during this trial.
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I genuinely want to know (and have yet to get an answer from anyone other than "Oh no, that wouldn't happen"), what would happen if he just said "We're not having an election. Too much of a chance of vote rigging by Hillary, and we've done a poll and all Americans want me to stay, so we're not wasting the money on it."lpm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:49 pmThe Republicans had this opportunity to get rid of a criminal with dementia who thinks the wheel was invented in the USA.
They declined to take it.
They are going to be regretting this in 6 months, when their guy is missing from the campaign trail and they're trying to defend Senators who will look corrupt, or stupid, or corrupt and stupid.
Then what?
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A: It will not happen
B: If it happened, people would accept it. A lot of sturm und drag, but people would be okay as long as they have big screen tellys and facebook.
B: If it happened, people would accept it. A lot of sturm und drag, but people would be okay as long as they have big screen tellys and facebook.
Masking forever
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again
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Legal challenges in the Supreme Court. Armed insurrection. They has guns.sideshowjim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:32 pmI genuinely want to know (and have yet to get an answer from anyone other than "Oh no, that wouldn't happen"), what would happen if he just said "We're not having an election. Too much of a chance of vote rigging by Hillary, and we've done a poll and all Americans want me to stay, so we're not wasting the money on it."lpm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:49 pmThe Republicans had this opportunity to get rid of a criminal with dementia who thinks the wheel was invented in the USA.
They declined to take it.
They are going to be regretting this in 6 months, when their guy is missing from the campaign trail and they're trying to defend Senators who will look corrupt, or stupid, or corrupt and stupid.
Then what?
And remember that if you botch the exit, the carnival of reaction may be coming to a town near you.
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Elections are at a state level. In theory some states could hold the election, e.g. California, while others don't.
The electoral college would assemble and elect a president. I think electors from the non-voting states would still be legitimate.
The electoral college would assemble and elect a president. I think electors from the non-voting states would still be legitimate.
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Its the Trump supporters what has the guns. Not the other guys.
Masking forever
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again
Putin is a monster.
Russian socialism will rise again
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They want the Right to bear armsHerainestold wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:12 amIts the Trump supporters what has the guns. Not the other guys.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!