Re: COVID-19
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:48 pm
There might not be a deaths update today, says Chris Smyth. Which will be interesting. So, is the number for yesterday presumably only an as yet unknown portion of the day?
Not published, necessarily. But there should be a unit testing framework in place that is run on the components before the system is tested or used.
Yes. It's like publishing results from a novel technique without a methods section or establishing that the technique matches accepted results.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:50 amThat's most of them, then. Publishing code is really quite a recent phenomenon (and it still isn't standard practice, nor is code necessarily reviewed).dyqik wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:06 amAny publications based on undocumented and unreviewed code without unit tests should probably be retracted as unrepeatable and unverifiable. You might as well use instruments with no calibration or traceability to standards.greyspoke wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:39 pmWell that Prof Ferguson has a slightly optimistic prediction.
But is getting some flack on twitter for not open-sourcing his code - "I wrote the code (thousands of lines of undocumented C) 13+ years ago to model flu pandemics..."
I assume that his publications on the topic gave the underlying algorithms but not the actual code.
If they want the populace to co-operate with measures to stop the spread of the virus, understating the number of deaths or not reporting them would be stupid and counterproductive ...El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:48 pmThere might not be a deaths update today, says Chris Smyth. Which will be interesting. So, is the number for yesterday presumably only an as yet unknown portion of the day?
Yes. Not a hope. See every contentious public inquiry since, I dunno, earliest I can think of is bl..dy Sunday, or maybe Hillsborough, or cash for questions? The thing with the duck house and the moat? Grenfell? The Iraq War? Phone hacking? The Westland Affair? We live in a cuntaucracy.
There are probably going to be questions about the Dyson ventilator too.EACLucifer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:49 pmI'm sure patting yourselves on the back and feeling smug about how cynical you are is really going to help. We're in a crisis - surely the most important thing to do is snipe at people trying to actually do something to help!
A lot of this is going to get lost in a blur of collective memory. It's worth keeping track of the lies and failures so that people can be reminded of them when it matters, and whether it works or not, it's got more chance of working than performative mistaking-cyncism-for-cleverness ego-stroking.
Yeah, noticing a lot of attention being drawn to Dyson, JCB etc, which does not seem commensurate with their ability to deliver anything useful.jimbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:51 pmThere are probably going to be questions about the Dyson ventilator too.EACLucifer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:49 pmI'm sure patting yourselves on the back and feeling smug about how cynical you are is really going to help. We're in a crisis - surely the most important thing to do is snipe at people trying to actually do something to help!
A lot of this is going to get lost in a blur of collective memory. It's worth keeping track of the lies and failures so that people can be reminded of them when it matters, and whether it works or not, it's got more chance of working than performative mistaking-cyncism-for-cleverness ego-stroking.
Why do they have an order for an unproven design whilst established manufacturers don't?
Well, it'll be four times the price of an ordinary ventilator, but it'll look really great so you won't even notice at first that it's deafeningly loud.
They don't have an order. That was a lie. Their design isn't approved, so no order has been placed yet. Be more cynical.jimbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:51 pmThere are probably going to be questions about the Dyson ventilator too.EACLucifer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:49 pmI'm sure patting yourselves on the back and feeling smug about how cynical you are is really going to help. We're in a crisis - surely the most important thing to do is snipe at people trying to actually do something to help!
A lot of this is going to get lost in a blur of collective memory. It's worth keeping track of the lies and failures so that people can be reminded of them when it matters, and whether it works or not, it's got more chance of working than performative mistaking-cyncism-for-cleverness ego-stroking.
Why do they have an order for an unproven design whilst established manufacturers don't?
I do have sympathy with folk wanting to get out for a walk somewhere away from other people. As long as they don't stop anywhere while driving to and from the Peak District, get into an traffic accident or hurt themselves (e.g. that couple taking selfies on the edge of a cliff) and need emergency services, they should be ok.lpm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:18 pmf.ck, this is ludicrous from the police. Harassing people walking a dog in remote areas miles from other people. These people are not going against government guidelines.
https://twitter.com/DerbysPolice/status ... 1503882241
It's far lower risk than walking your dog in the local park.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:30 pmCertainly walking your dog in a National Park seems like far lower risk than, say, construction.
It's a plot, a scam, a conspiracy I tell you; a sop to soothe your expectations, a distraction to take your mind off the direness of the straits we're in.
Yes they are. It is blatantly unnecessary travel. The issue is containment. Keeping virus hotspots local. From the cruise ship we are looking at 17 day viability. Even in non-ideal condtions its longer than expected: On styles, gates, bins, shops fuel stations. Each one an opportunity for virus to move from one town/city/hamlet/suburb to another.lpm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:18 pmf.ck, this is ludicrous from the police. Harassing people walking a dog in remote areas miles from other people. These people are not going against government guidelines.
https://twitter.com/DerbysPolice/status ... 1503882241