Re: COVID-19 Heroes and Villains
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 12:02 pm
The despicable tw.t who did this.
Yep. He's been my MP for a massive proportion of my life and the fact he goes by Doctor meant it was only embarrassingly recently that I realised that the 'surgery' that would get advertised in the local paper every now and then wasn't him treating patients but seeing constituents. I did once check he was still registered with the GMC and he is, but I think it's just so he can keep using the Dr title. I wouldn't trust him to treat people now, particularly as he seems to have no understanding of informed consent.headshot wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:56 amOh wow. Your MP is disgraced former Defence Secretary Liam Fox??Fishnut wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:02 amMy MP feels that the whole world has overreacted.
He does at least set foot in the constituency (he likes doing photo ops with local groups) and he even attended the hustings for the last election though he really looked like he couldn't be bothered. Still won over 50% of the vote
I didn't realise he was still registered with the GMCFishnut wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:13 pmYep. He's been my MP for a massive proportion of my life and the fact he goes by Doctor meant it was only embarrassingly recently that I realised that the 'surgery' that would get advertised in the local paper every now and then wasn't him treating patients but seeing constituents. I did once check he was still registered with the GMC and he is, but I think it's just so he can keep using the Dr title. I wouldn't trust him to treat people now, particularly as he seems to have no understanding of informed consent.headshot wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:56 amOh wow. Your MP is disgraced former Defence Secretary Liam Fox??Fishnut wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 10:02 amMy MP feels that the whole world has overreacted.
He does at least set foot in the constituency (he likes doing photo ops with local groups) and he even attended the hustings for the last election though he really looked like he couldn't be bothered. Still won over 50% of the vote
Just checked and he's registered without a licence to practice. It's possible last time I checked he was as he changed to no licence in 2015.
And yet they vow to fight on.... sigh...Rosewind wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 1:17 pmExcellent conclusion to the Gemma O’Doherty case:
“Rather, in court, the applicants gave unsubstantiated opinions, speeches, engaged in empty rhetoric and sought to draw an historical parallel with Nazi Germany. Such a parallel is both absurd and offensive. Unsubstantiated opinions, speeches, rhetoric and a bogus historical parallel are not substitutes for facts.”
Go Justice Meenan!
https://static.rasset.ie/documents/news ... eneral.pdf
Good news. They may have found him
See also the bad graphs threadFlammableFlower wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:31 pmBrian Kemp, governor of Georgia.
In a bid (to impress Trump?) to open the state on his timeline, he/his officialshave manipulated the COVID figures to show a downward trend by - get this - swapping the dates about. They then said that the graph had been designed to show something else, but that's not what they'd been using for.
In a rare display of sanity - two churches who had reopened when he relaxed the stay-at-home orders have now shut again due to additional positive results...
I mean, he deliberately infected somebody with a disease known to be potentially fatal. It's analogous to cases where people have failed to disclose their HIV status and so on. It should be treated a lot more seriously than a simple spit, given that he knew he had it.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pmIf they have the right person, that seems like remarkable detective work. I wonder if they can charge him with much more than common assault, though.
That depends on what he says when questioned. If he says that he intended to do serious harm (or that can be shown by other means, which I think is unlikely in the circumstances), then it's murder. Otherwise manslaughter.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pmIf they have the right person, that seems like remarkable detective work. I wonder if they can charge him with much more than common assault, though.
FTFY. They'll have to demonstrate that he did know he had it (or had grounds to believe he did) on the date of the incident. Otherwise a defence of "but I was just threatening Covid because I'm a bullying prick, I didn't actually think I had it" is probably viable to get back to the lesser charge. Especially since the victim worked in a public-facing role where this was probably far from the only plausible route of infection if the defence wishes to quibble.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:29 pmI mean, he deliberately infected somebody with a disease known to be potentially fatal. It's analogous to cases where people have failed to disclose their HIV status and so on. It should be treated a lot more seriously than a simple spit, if he knew he had it.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pmIf they have the right person, that seems like remarkable detective work. I wonder if they can charge him with much more than common assault, though.
You would need to prove that it was actually his 'covid' that infected her, depending on the charge you are aiming for. If she was working on a public concourse or otherwise generally not self-isolating, that could be difficult to prove to the criminal standard.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:29 pmI mean, he deliberately infected somebody with a disease known to be potentially fatal. It's analogous to cases where people have failed to disclose their HIV status and so on. It should be treated a lot more seriously than a simple spit, given that he knew he had it.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pmIf they have the right person, that seems like remarkable detective work. I wonder if they can charge him with much more than common assault, though.
Oh. Curious. That's just like that plane off of the What Are You Watching thread. https://www.flightradar24.com/RVR7RX/2478e8f4jimbob wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 2:44 pmWhen even Dublin Airport twitter account is mocking your special advisor...
https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/statu ... 67302?s=20
So....yeahdiscovolante wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:50 amYou would need to prove that it was actually his 'covid' that infected her, depending on the charge you are aiming for. If she was working on a public concourse or otherwise generally not self-isolating, that could be difficult to prove to the criminal standard.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:29 pmI mean, he deliberately infected somebody with a disease known to be potentially fatal. It's analogous to cases where people have failed to disclose their HIV status and so on. It should be treated a lot more seriously than a simple spit, given that he knew he had it.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pm
If they have the right person, that seems like remarkable detective work. I wonder if they can charge him with much more than common assault, though.