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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by Little waster » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:36 pm

Vertigowooyay wrote:
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Oh my, how could this possibly have happened on the Express picture desk? I'm sure there'll be a fulsome apology in due course.



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It's simple. It's the same street but on different nights, everyone happens to be standing in the same place because of social distancing and wearing the same clothing because being locked down has most people essentially living in their own filth by now.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by Iron Magpie » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:50 pm

...and they wonder why some of us want to see the press brought properly into line on this kind of blatant lying. :evil:

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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by Little waster » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:28 pm

Iron Magpie wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:50 pm
...and they wonder why some of us want to see the press brought properly into line on this kind of blatant lying. :evil:
It's fine, I'm pretty sure fabricating spontaneous displays of support and love for the Great Leader is a perfectly normal hallmark of a free press and vigorous democracy.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by sTeamTraen » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:36 pm

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:23 pm
Oh my, how could this possibly have happened on the Express picture desk? I'm sure there'll be a fulsome apology in due course.
I hope you don't mind that I posted this to Twitter and involved the amazing forensic skills of Elisabeth Bik, not that they were really needed here. See https://twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1 ... 39681?s=20 and previous tweets in the thread. I wasn't sure whether or how to credit you.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by plebian » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:08 pm

JQH wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:54 pm
Bit difficult with social distancing and all. They could keep him in a fridge until the epidemic's over I suppose.

Which brings me to another point. If the queen or Prince Philip kick the bucket, will they be buried quietly or kept on ice waiting for better times?
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by sTeamTraen » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:09 pm

I see The Times is making the bold, risky, cutting-edge, opinion-leading statements that it's famous for. Their subscribers definitely couldn't have worked out by themselves that someone who is in ICU with COVID-19 will be dead or recovered within the next two weeks.

(When I saw the subject line of the e-mail that brought me this, I actually thought they meant his political survival and it was just an unfortunate choice of words.)
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Post by shpalman » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:11 pm

Yes I'm sure Johnson was just as seriously ill as an average covid-related admission.
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Post by plebian » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:11 pm

He's more familiar with discharge

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Post by Martin Y » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:17 pm

He's also more likely to ignore doctors recommendations and keep working so he can look strong, resilient and brave, until genuinely scared he's going to die.

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Post by EACLucifer » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:18 pm

Did he actually keep working, though, or did he just largely pretend to keep working?

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Post by Martin Y » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:41 pm

He may very well have spent many years largely pretending to keep working, so he could probably keep that workrate up while quite unwell.

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Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:55 pm

EACLucifer wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:18 pm
Did he actually keep working, though, or did he just largely pretend to keep working?
I very much suspect the latter. It's quite odd to see so many people suddenly (a) believing Boris Johnson's government (b) about Johnson's famously pisspoor work ethic.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by Millennie Al » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:23 am

Bird on a Fire wrote:
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Can I wish him down a well?
Not Boris. Boris is a ditch man - not a well man. Definitely not a well man as he's in hospital.

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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by Millennie Al » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:47 am

Sciolus wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:52 pm
Anyway, I'm surprised someone as wealthy and important Johnson isn't in a private hospital.

Oh wait, they only cherry-pick the easy stuff and leave the difficult stuff to the NHS.
It's one of those things that he cannot possibly do right. If he went to a private hospital he'd be condemned for showing he thinks the NHS is not good enough.

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Post by tom p » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:22 am

Millennie Al wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:47 am
Sciolus wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:52 pm
Anyway, I'm surprised someone as wealthy and important Johnson isn't in a private hospital.

Oh wait, they only cherry-pick the easy stuff and leave the difficult stuff to the NHS.
It's one of those things that he cannot possibly do right. If he went to a private hospital he'd be condemned for showing he thinks the NHS is not good enough.
If you learn understand English, as well as just read it, you'll realise that sciolus' post was a criticism of the way private hospitals work. the clue was in the sentence "Oh wait, they only cherry-pick the easy stuff and leave the difficult stuff to the NHS."

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Re: Get well soon Boris

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Post by shpalman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:25 am

(with the caveat that the Italian press may have exaggerated this from "also there is an Italian specialist somewhere in the same hospital")
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by bob sterman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:44 am

shpalman wrote:
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(with the caveat that the Italian press may have exaggerated this from "also there is an Italian specialist somewhere in the same hospital")
So THE consultant taking care of Johnson is a virologist? Now if I was in Johnson's position - while I might like them to talk to a virologist - I think I'd prefer having my breathing looked after by an intensive care & anaesthetics consultant.

Or do staff shortages mean we now have virologists responsible for intubating patients?

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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by shpalman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:47 am

bob sterman wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:44 am
shpalman wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:25 am
(with the caveat that the Italian press may have exaggerated this from "also there is an Italian specialist somewhere in the same hospital")
So THE consultant taking care of Johnson is a virologist? Now if I was in Johnson's position - while I might like them to talk to a virologist - I think I'd prefer having my breathing looked after by an intensive care & anaesthetics consultant.

Or do staff shortages mean we now have virologists responsible for intubating patients?
That was kind of my point, yes.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by shpalman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:51 am

Stephanie wrote:
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shpalman wrote:
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Stephanie wrote:
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Operation Last Gasp really coming back to bite him on the arse eh
Were they confused about which end to fit the ventilator to?

Another use case for that science toilet you posted about.
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Wait I had that wrong it turns out that the CPAP machine blows air in one end and the political vacuum sucks it out the other.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by Vertigowooyay » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:17 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:36 pm
Vertigowooyay wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:23 pm
Oh my, how could this possibly have happened on the Express picture desk? I'm sure there'll be a fulsome apology in due course.
I hope you don't mind that I posted this to Twitter and involved the amazing forensic skills of Elisabeth Bik, not that they were really needed here. See https://twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1 ... 39681?s=20 and previous tweets in the thread. I wasn't sure whether or how to credit you.
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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by lpm » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:19 pm

Latest update:

He is "still in good spirits".

I had thought he might be.
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Post by Pucksoppet » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:58 pm

lpm wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:19 pm
Latest update:

He is "still in good spirits".

I had thought he might be.
He hasn't got to that stage of the party where you think it is a good idea to try a cocktail of Crème de Menthe and Advocaat after raiding the back of the sadly depleted drinks cabinet.

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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by bob sterman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:23 pm

I think it's pretty telling that yesterday it was announced that Boris was merely "engaging" with staff - and apparently Rishi Sunak has said today that he is now “sitting up in bed” and “engaging positively” with medics.

If they had mean talking, and been able to say talking, they would have said talking.

"Engaging" with staff is what you might do when you're receiving some sort of ventilatory support than means you cannot talk (e.g. CPAP or intubation). E.g. squeezing someone's hand in response to something.

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Re: Get well soon Boris

Post by shpalman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:35 pm

bob sterman wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:23 pm
I think it's pretty telling that yesterday it was announced that Boris was merely "engaging" with staff - and apparently Rishi Sunak has said today that he is now “sitting up in bed” and “engaging positively” with medics.

If they had mean talking, and been able to say talking, they would have said talking.

"Engaging" with staff is what you might do when you're receiving some sort of ventilatory support than means you cannot talk (e.g. CPAP or intubation). E.g. squeezing someone's hand in response to something.
They did insist he hadn't been intubated (at which point he would probably also be sedated and maybe pr0n'd proned) but did say oxygen so yeah I'm guessing a CPAP mask or something.

The Guardian asked around about that thing about breathing exercises and Saira Ghafur, an honorary respiratory consultant at St Mary’s hospital in London, says:
Lying continuously on your back is not ideal. “If you can sit and take deep breaths in and out, that will help any respiratory condition – you’re taking in a bigger lungful of air and that will help remove any mucus.” However, she adds that there is no evidence that this will improve your recovery.
... so sitting up might actually be a thing, considered better for him than lying down.

I assume he's in intensive care for the extra monitoring equipment rather than the ventilator or ECMO machine.
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