GUIDE: Basic Home Mask Production
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More about this magical polypropylene filter material: I gather the stuff they suggest is "interfacing material" which as a non-clothes-making person I never heard of, but seems to be a non-woven reinforcing layer either stitched in or ironed on to keep delicate fabrics in shape.
Okay well I've looked for that and the local haberdasher will sell several types but further digging suggests they're all polyamide or polyester blends and not polypropylene. Is that significant? Various docs about polypropylene aircon filters hint that its electrostatic charge is important to its function. So does the particular synthetic material make a big difference or not? I can't tell. Very tiresome.
Okay well I've looked for that and the local haberdasher will sell several types but further digging suggests they're all polyamide or polyester blends and not polypropylene. Is that significant? Various docs about polypropylene aircon filters hint that its electrostatic charge is important to its function. So does the particular synthetic material make a big difference or not? I can't tell. Very tiresome.
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If you do get interfacing check what kind it is. Some of it is impregnated with stiffener that's activated when you iron the fabric and is very sticky. It can also go a bit lumpy when washed if it's not then ironed.Martin Y wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:03 pmMore about this magical polypropylene filter material: I gather the stuff they suggest is "interfacing material" which as a non-clothes-making person I never heard of, but seems to be a non-woven reinforcing layer either stitched in or ironed on to keep delicate fabrics in shape.
Okay well I've looked for that and the local haberdasher will sell several types but further digging suggests they're all polyamide or polyester blends and not polypropylene. Is that significant? Various docs about polypropylene aircon filters hint that its electrostatic charge is important to its function. So does the particular synthetic material make a big difference or not? I can't tell. Very tiresome.
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Thanks. I had guessed that all the iron-on types just partially melted and fused rather than containing a separate adhesive (or stiffener, as you describe), so that's definitely worth knowing as it's bound to affect breathability. I'm going on a mission to Needlecraft.
This has already provoked an "oh, while you're there..." response. Something about knitting needles. How many knitting needles is it possible to need? (I do realise this is analogous to asking how many spanners it's possible to need, so am in no position to object.)
This has already provoked an "oh, while you're there..." response. Something about knitting needles. How many knitting needles is it possible to need? (I do realise this is analogous to asking how many spanners it's possible to need, so am in no position to object.)
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Correct. I bought so many of our favourite crochet hooks last time I was in a US craft store that they thought I was some kind of craft teacher. And we can still never find a 4.5mm one when we need it.Martin Y wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:11 am
This has already provoked an "oh, while you're there..." response. Something about knitting needles. How many knitting needles is it possible to need? (I do realise this is analogous to asking how many spanners it's possible to need, so am in no position to object.)
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Not only do you need different size needles but different length straight ones and circular ones. And some afficionados will use needles made of different materials depending on the yarn. Never question someone with a knitting needle in their hand...Martin Y wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:11 amThanks. I had guessed that all the iron-on types just partially melted and fused rather than containing a separate adhesive (or stiffener, as you describe), so that's definitely worth knowing as it's bound to affect breathability. I'm going on a mission to Needlecraft.
This has already provoked an "oh, while you're there..." response. Something about knitting needles. How many knitting needles is it possible to need? (I do realise this is analogous to asking how many spanners it's possible to need, so am in no position to object.)

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Carefully primed, I selected 7mm x 30cm needles. Mrs haberdasher was intrigued by the suggestion of interfacing as a middle layer in a mask as she hadn't heard of it, which surprised me and rather scuppered my plan to ask her advice, but as it 'appened someone had bought some just this morning for the purpose so I said I'll have what she's having, so to speak.
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7mm needles? That must be some fairly chunky yarn. Please let me know how you get on with the interfacing.Martin Y wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:46 pmCarefully primed, I selected 7mm x 30cm needles. Mrs haberdasher was intrigued by the suggestion of interfacing as a middle layer in a mask as she hadn't heard of it, which surprised me and rather scuppered my plan to ask her advice, but as it 'appened someone had bought some just this morning for the purpose so I said I'll have what she's having, so to speak.
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I've made some masks with pleated sides as that was the easiest style to copy and now I'm looking at the ones with shaped seams down the middle. If you've worn both styles, is one preferable in terms of comfort, breathability etc?
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I personally prefer the shaped ones with the seam down the middle. I find the pleated ones seem to ride up my face and get into my eyes. The shaped ones don't
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I suspect though the real decision is whether to have elastic loops behind the ears, or ties/ elastic that goes over the head?
A few people I know who wear glasses prefer ties. My favourite (ish)* mask has 2 long loops of elastic so one can go round the back of my neck, and the other round the top, with toggles to tighten it.
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*My other favourite mask has dinosaurs on it, but the elastic ear loops are too tight
A few people I know who wear glasses prefer ties. My favourite (ish)* mask has 2 long loops of elastic so one can go round the back of my neck, and the other round the top, with toggles to tighten it.
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*My other favourite mask has dinosaurs on it, but the elastic ear loops are too tight

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Mrs Y reports that the interfacing (light grade, iron-on style) worked really well.
She bonded it behind the front layer when making a pair of masks in pleated style. Stitching through all the layers in the pleat plus an accent piece at the sides was laborious work for the machine but taking it slow and easy worked fine.
She made them to have round-the-ear elastic but actually left four individual elastic straps in the corners so the recipients could tie them to size. These are for her brother and his partner. Bro in particular is suffering pretty serious anxiety issues over ever going out at all so hopefully these will help.
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Re: elastic loops vs. ties
In our experience (wearing masks regularly since March), the elastic loops are perfectly comfortable if they're just the right size (e.g. if they can be made to measure for the specific user, and members of the same household can all have different designs so they can easily tell which is theirs).
Mrs BoaF has reconfigured hers to use a couple of old shoelaces to tie round the neck/head and much prefers it, as the "women's size" mask she bought had really short loops which made it super uncomfortable.
Despite being black fabric with black straps it doesn't look that much like a gimp mask.
In our experience (wearing masks regularly since March), the elastic loops are perfectly comfortable if they're just the right size (e.g. if they can be made to measure for the specific user, and members of the same household can all have different designs so they can easily tell which is theirs).
Mrs BoaF has reconfigured hers to use a couple of old shoelaces to tie round the neck/head and much prefers it, as the "women's size" mask she bought had really short loops which made it super uncomfortable.
Despite being black fabric with black straps it doesn't look that much like a gimp mask.
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I've found making my own that elastic is fine as you can customize the length and it doesn't interfere with wearing sunglasses. I've also made the pleat sided ones a bit deeper so they come down just over the chin which prevents riding up.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:53 pmRe: elastic loops vs. ties
In our experience (wearing masks regularly since March), the elastic loops are perfectly comfortable if they're just the right size (e.g. if they can be made to measure for the specific user, and members of the same household can all have different designs so they can easily tell which is theirs).
Mrs BoaF has reconfigured hers to use a couple of old shoelaces to tie round the neck/head and much prefers it, as the "women's size" mask she bought had really short loops which made it super uncomfortable.
Despite being black fabric with black straps it doesn't look that much like a gimp mask.
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So. I've dragged the sew machine out of its dusty corner, and I've been looking at designs, debating whether to go simple or complicated, with/without a metal strip,with/without some sort of opening to insert filters, etc. (Don't think I can get hold of polypropelene easily, but I've seen coffee filters suggested & we have those...)
The gov.uk page links to this site which has two simple-ish patterns, one simple square, one with the seam down the middle:https://www.bigcommunitysew.co.uk/
But it also links to this guidance - which is aimed at people selling masks I think:https://brc.org.uk/media/674992/face-co ... nes_v2.pdf
Lots of safety points in there, but relevantly:
Which suggests perhaps seams up the middle aren't such a great idea unless sealed in some way.Face coverings should not contain seams in the mouth or nose area but where such seams are included then they shall meet the requirements for water penetration resistance
And also for kid's masks:
Which seem confusing but I assume are meant to limit strangling and choking hazards respectively....c) The use of elastic ear cords is not recommended nor is the use of ties in face coverings intended to be worn by children under the age of 7 year
d)The use of face coverings with a nose bridge is not recommended for face coverings intended for use by children.
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I've now embroidered a couple of small designs on squares of fabric and sewn them onto the mask. In addition to entertaining me, this increases the thickness in the central part of the mask. So far I've done a bat and a lizard.
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A bat seems appropriate. Maybe you could also embroider a pangolin.
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No, sadly.
I'm cannabalising what fabric I had in the house, which means I only have lizards or tigers. Because that's what the kids were into.
Lizard one looks pretty good, but as the fabric was originally bought for curtains it might be a bit too thick. Have to trial it tomorrow, see how hot it gets/if I can breathe in it.
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No, but I did make this as a card for a friend. It's a detail from a Heironymous Bosch painting. It's about three inches high.
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Is "nice" the appropriate response to that?
Never sure that's what I associate with Heironymous Bosch
Never sure that's what I associate with Heironymous Bosch
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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That's an ace card idea
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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Worried about how you'll smoke while wearing a mask? Never fear, they solved that problem back in 1919 during the flu pandemic. It also works for a drinking straw.

