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does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:58 pm
by jimbob

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:37 pm
by lpm
I'm pretty hopeful at least one person at this press conference is infectious.

They've been shaking hands, all touching the podium in the same places, all touching their faces.

If one of them dies, a million lives could be saved.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:29 pm
by lpm
Ha! Pence twice dodged shaking Trump's hand.

In his head he's hearing those happy words: Ladies and gentlemen, the 46th President of the United States.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:44 pm
by Squeak
The Australian home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, did his best to share with Bill Barr and Ivanka Trump last week.

There could be some interesting shenanigans if Barr isn't on deck constantly to put out spot fires for Trump...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/1 ... ure-128721

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:42 pm
by bjn
Squeak wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:44 pm
The Australian home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, did his best to share with Bill Barr and Ivanka Trump last week.

There could be some interesting shenanigans if Barr isn't on deck constantly to put out spot fires for Trump...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/1 ... ure-128721
Couldn't have been caught by a nicer Australian.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:42 am
by dyqik
lpm wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:37 pm
I'm pretty hopeful at least one person at this press conference is infectious.

They've been shaking hands, all touching the podium in the same places, all touching their faces.

If one of them dies, a million lives could be saved.
I think you're being quite pessimistic here.

It could be several million.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:36 pm
by FlammableFlower
Thought I'd put this here...

Trump yesterday: I'm fine, no worries, no need to get tested.

Trump today: yeah, I've been tested

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:39 pm
by Grumble
FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:36 pm
Thought I'd put this here...

Trump yesterday: I'm fine, no worries, no need to get tested.

Trump today: yeah, I've been tested
I don’t normally pray...

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:18 pm
by bmforre
Grumble wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:39 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:36 pm
Thought I'd put this here...

Trump yesterday: I'm fine, no worries, no need to get tested.

Trump today: yeah, I've been tested
I don’t normally pray...
Do you cast spells with wished-for effects?

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:37 pm
by shpalman
He tested negative.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:54 pm
by Boustrophedon
shpalman wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:37 pm
He tested negative.
This time.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:09 am
by Bird on a Fire
There were rumours that Brazilian fascist c.nt Jair Bolsonaro got it too, but unfortunately not. Yet.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:02 am
by Matatouille
Boustrophedon wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:54 pm
shpalman wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:37 pm
He tested negative.
This time.
Are we still testing for the virus in the bloodstream, or do we now have the ability to do antibody tests? If detecting the virus itself, I understand that there is a finite window where there is enough virus in the blood to detect. Before that there is a period from initial infection (some of that time a patient might be themselves infectious), and also after the virus has been fought off. Therefore all a virus test will say is that the person does or doesn't have measurable virus now, not definitively that they are, are not, or have been infected or infectious. If we can do antibody tests we can further narrow that down by telling if they have been infected previously.

Further blood virus tests might be required for a definitive answer.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:12 am
by AMS
Matatouille wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:02 am
Boustrophedon wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:54 pm
shpalman wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:37 pm
He tested negative.
This time.
Are we still testing for the virus in the bloodstream, or do we now have the ability to do antibody tests? If detecting the virus itself, I understand that there is a finite window where there is enough virus in the blood to detect. Before that there is a period from initial infection (some of that time a patient might be themselves infectious), and also after the virus has been fought off. Therefore all a virus test will say is that the person does or doesn't have measurable virus now, not definitively that they are, are not, or have been infected or infectious. If we can do antibody tests we can further narrow that down by telling if they have been infected previously.

Further blood virus tests might be required for a definitive answer.
The current tests are for the virus' RNA (from throat swabs I think, not blood), but antibody tests are in development. These will be very useful for identifying who has developed immunity, especially if we're not going to bother testing the mild cases, as we'll want to get the immune population back outdoors as soon as possible and doing economically active things. They'll also be valuable for providing services and social contact for the elderly and vulnerable.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:13 pm
by Pucksoppet
AMS wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:12 am


The current tests are for the virus' RNA (from throat swabs I think, not blood), but antibody tests are in development. These will be very useful for identifying who has developed immunity, especially if we're not going to bother testing the mild cases, as we'll want to get the immune population back outdoors as soon as possible and doing economically active things. They'll also be valuable for providing services and social contact for the elderly and vulnerable.
Antibody tests are (apparently*) available now [1][2], but what we don't know if how good or long lasting the IgG immunity is. There have been reports of re-infection, so having IgG antibodies might not confer sufficient immunity to make you safe to work with vulnerable people who have never been infected. There's a lot we don't know yet.

*My spidey sense tingles on the second link. The first link looks more like a legitimate company, but it seems odd that a small, company in Belfast is offering antibody testing. There's a story here somewhere, which has a high probability of me having been taken in.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 4:32 pm
by lpm
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/07/poli ... index.html
A member of the US Navy who serves as one of President Donald Trump's personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus, CNN learned Thursday, raising concerns about the President's possible exposure to the virus.

The valets are members of an elite military unit dedicated to the White House and often work very close to the President and first family. Trump was upset when he was informed Wednesday that the valet had tested positive, a source told CNN, and the President was subsequently tested again by the White House physician.

In a statement, the White House confirmed CNN's reporting that one of the President's staffers had tested positive.

... the White House has not enforced strict social distancing guidelines for staffers and few people inside the building wear masks during the day, including valets.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 9:30 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Get ill soon, Donald, mate.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 9:33 pm
by Blackcountryboy
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 9:30 pm
Get ill soon, Donald, mate.
With nothing trivial I hope.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:42 am
by Grumble
Not sure I’ve ever - as an adult at least - actively wanted someone to die. I can’t deny the feeling of hope I had when I heard a valet of his has it though.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:12 pm
by shpalman
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... 4cd4296d94

19:42

"Pence's press secretary has coronavirus
The staffer at the White House who tested positive for coronavirus this morning is Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary, Donald Trump just confirmed.

Katie Miller (nee Waldman) is married to the top adviser to the president, Stephen Miller.

The White House strongly defended its efforts earlier to protect Trump and Pence from catching coronavirus."

https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status ... 48673?s=09

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:03 pm
by jimbob
shpalman wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 7:12 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... 4cd4296d94

19:42

"Pence's press secretary has coronavirus
The staffer at the White House who tested positive for coronavirus this morning is Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary, Donald Trump just confirmed.

Katie Miller (nee Waldman) is married to the top adviser to the president, Stephen Miller.

The White House strongly defended its efforts earlier to protect Trump and Pence from catching coronavirus."

https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status ... 48673?s=09
Prayer is good and all that is needed, I'm sure.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:40 pm
by tom p
shpalman wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 7:12 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... 4cd4296d94

19:42

"Pence's press secretary has coronavirus
The staffer at the White House who tested positive for coronavirus this morning is Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary, Donald Trump just confirmed.

Katie Miller (nee Waldman) is married to the top adviser to the president, Stephen Miller.

The White House strongly defended its efforts earlier to protect Trump and Pence from catching coronavirus."

https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status ... 48673?s=09
Someone married Stephen Miller?
f.cking seriously?
She must be either pure evil or look like a diseased onion to settle for that hateful hideous despicable piece of charmless hateful sh.t.
f.ck, there really is someone for everyone.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:16 pm
by Martin Y
tom p wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 8:40 pm
Someone married Stephen Miller?
f.cking seriously?
She must be either pure evil or look like a diseased onion to settle for that hateful hideous despicable piece of charmless hateful sh.t.
f.ck, there really is someone for everyone.
That's put a smile on my face. Thanks.

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:29 pm
by Herainestold
The virus missed Boris, but it still has a chance with Trump and Bolsonaro and Duterte and Modi ...

Re: does trump have coronavirus?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:10 am
by EACLucifer
Herainestold wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 10:29 pm
The virus missed Boris, but it still has a chance with Trump and Bolsonaro and Duterte and Modi ...
If there were any justice in nature, it would get Xi Jinping