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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by FredM » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:42 am

jimbob wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:18 pm
sTeamTraen wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
Ivor Cummins is now claiming that lockdowns coincide with drops in cases because governments time the announcement of lockdowns to coincide with the natural variations in the cycle of infection numbers. :shock:
I seem to have got under his skin several times. Which is encouraging.
Good on you! Hope this does too (yes, I'm afraid it's yet another Downfall parody but as Cummins has used the word himself & it's actually quite funny I make no apologies).
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:01 pm

FredM wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:42 am
jimbob wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:18 pm
sTeamTraen wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:09 pm
Ivor Cummins is now claiming that lockdowns coincide with drops in cases because governments time the announcement of lockdowns to coincide with the natural variations in the cycle of infection numbers. :shock:
I seem to have got under his skin several times. Which is encouraging.
Good on you! Hope this does too (yes, I'm afraid it's yet another Downfall parody but as Cummins has used the word himself & it's actually quite funny I make no apologies).
https://captiongenerator.com/2129947/Iv ... s-downfall
Oh yes.

Cummins has several times used my graphs... Badly.
https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1 ... 16705?s=20

In other news Michel Yeadon seems to have deactivated his account.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:22 pm

The latest self-own by Cummins

his video where he's used this map in a couple of them

Look at Russia first

https://youtu.be/QU0b-En3pCI?t=796


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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by JQH » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:17 pm

The political boundaries suggest he's in an alternative reality.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by Martin_B » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:40 am

JQH wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:17 pm
The political boundaries suggest he's in an alternative reality.
I'm trying to work out when that map might be accurate (if ever).

Alaska is shown as part of the US, so it has to be after 1867, and Papua New Guinea is also shown which only came about after WW1.

But there seems to be one country called "Arabia" which covers the entire Arabian peninsula including Iraq, Syria Jordan and Israel. I know Oman was a separate entity from the mid 17th century.

Neither Belgium nor the Netherlands appear to exist, again suggesting some time before the mid 17th century.

There also appears to be a country called "Morocco" which covers Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya. For these to be considered one country I think you have to go back to the 1500s. I know France 'colonised' (ie, conquered) these countries during the 19th century, but a) they always treated them as separate countries, and b) there should be definite separate states in the Arabian peninsula by then.

There appears to be a country roughly in the location of Bangladesh. This could either be the Sultanate of Bengal (14th-16th centuries) or Bangladesh (1947 onwards).

So it's either some time after 1947, or some time before the 1500s, when neither Australia nor New Zealand had even been discovered (by white men) yet.
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Post by basementer » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:04 am

There's no distinction between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, so it's pre 1949, and the Italian Peninsula seems to be two separate states, which would place it before the mid 19th century. But Australia and New Zealand are coloured differently, which suggests that they aren't colonies under the same British rule, so it's after your Federation (1901) and/or our Dominion (1907).

Anyway, the map is nonsense. But it's probably a red herring when he's arguing more dangerous nonsense.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by Little waster » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:49 am

Martin_B wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:40 am

There also appears to be a country called "Morocco" which covers Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya.
I think that is down as "Maghreb".

My first assumption given the North Asian countries was he was using the Risk map as part of some obscure play on COVID/vaccine/lockdown/civil liberties risk.

The Reds need to watch out, if the Greens can hold onto Oceania they'll get two more armies next round.



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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by lpm » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:16 am

Germany's captured Belgium and Holland. Italy has broken in two.

But it's the northern lands that are interesting - multiple countries in Canada and Russia. This implies it's a post global warming map, when everyone migrates to the lush tropical forests in Siberia and Greenland. Refugees fleeing north might conceivably create new nations in these currently unpopulated zones.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:51 am

basementer wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:04 am
There's no distinction between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, so it's pre 1949, and the Italian Peninsula seems to be two separate states, which would place it before the mid 19th century. But Australia and New Zealand are coloured differently, which suggests that they aren't colonies under the same British rule, so it's after your Federation (1901) and/or our Dominion (1907).

Anyway, the map is nonsense. But it's probably a red herring when he's arguing more dangerous nonsense.
I think that the map comes from a strategy game. For example, 'Arabia' and Finland never had those borders except in the imaginations of nationalists. The map looks like what would happen if someone gamed an alternate reality.

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by shpalman » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:58 am

This isn't why he's wrong about covid though is it.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:32 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:51 am
basementer wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:04 am
There's no distinction between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, so it's pre 1949, and the Italian Peninsula seems to be two separate states, which would place it before the mid 19th century. But Australia and New Zealand are coloured differently, which suggests that they aren't colonies under the same British rule, so it's after your Federation (1901) and/or our Dominion (1907).

Anyway, the map is nonsense. But it's probably a red herring when he's arguing more dangerous nonsense.
I think that the map comes from a strategy game. For example, 'Arabia' and Finland never had those borders except in the imaginations of nationalists. The map looks like what would happen if someone gamed an alternate reality.
I did think of something like Risk but actually it was from "Post flood Earth in 2060"

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:41 am

shpalman wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:58 am
This isn't why he's wrong about covid though is it.
No, but if I was pulling in something North of €10k per month through my "content" denying the severity of Covid and shouting about my analytical skillz - I might at least check that I wasn't using a fictional map.

It does highlight his attention to detail in a way that might get through some people in a way that his complete lack of understanding about when integration is sensible mightn't

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by Little waster » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:39 am

lpm wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:16 am
Germany's captured Belgium and Holland. Italy has broken in two.

But it's the northern lands that are interesting - multiple countries in Canada and Russia. This implies it's a post global warming map, when everyone migrates to the lush tropical forests in Siberia and Greenland. Refugees fleeing north might conceivably create new nations in these currently unpopulated zones.
Meanwhile while Western Canada is under US occupation; in the East New Brunswick and Nova Scotia have been outright annexed. :?

Somebody's clearly implemented War Plan Red.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by bob sterman » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:39 am

Arrrrghh - wish the bank would calculate my wealth by taking the area under the cumulative curve depicting the balance of the account that I left with just £1 in it back in 1985. Instead of just putting it at about £1.30.

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:00 pm

My 25 tweet response to Clare Craig's latest "factsheet"

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by headshot » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:47 am

Oh good grief. The comments here: https://www.facebook.com/228735667216/p ... 27217/?d=n

Anti-vaxxers a-plenty.

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 pm

Image

Now removed by Twitter.

And possibly a discussion about time travel debugging, which makes it funnier
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Post by jaap » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:04 pm

jimbob wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 pm
Image

Now removed by Twitter.

And possibly a discussion about time travel debugging, which makes it funnier
The image does not load for me, presumably because twitter has removed it together with the post it was in.

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:27 pm

jaap wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:04 pm
jimbob wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 pm
Image

Now removed by Twitter.

And possibly a discussion about time travel debugging, which makes it funnier
The image does not load for me, presumably because twitter has removed it together with the post it was in.
Odd, it still loads for me - logging on here in a different browser:

Anyway:
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by FredM » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:18 pm

jimbob wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 pm
Image

Now removed by Twitter.

And possibly a discussion about time travel debugging, which makes it funnier
One of the best responses so far: https://twitter.com/amyfullermorgan/sta ... 98787?s=21

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by nezumi » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:13 pm

jimbob wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:22 pm
The latest self-own by Cummins

his video where he's used this map in a couple of them

Look at Russia first

https://youtu.be/QU0b-En3pCI?t=796


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Seriously that's the weirdest map I've seen in my life.

So we've got Russia split up into administrative regions. Tibet is sodding enormous. I mean, the last time Tibet was last that big was about the 790's.
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What the hell is with Mahgreb? Is he thinking of the Barbary States? Bit... Generalist? Bit... 1780's? No? Sure?

I do wish I had a better picture to look at, to see what his geography of Africa looks like. Quite telling I would think.

Very interesting that whoever drew this map has Canada split into very general regions as well. Last I checked, Canada, Quebec, Greenland, et al. were all one country and have never been those specific countries in the past.

It could be a map from somewhere between "here be dragons" and "I see no ships". It's definitely not one created by (or utilised by) somebody who thinks beyond the 18th century though.

In my humble opinion.

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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by basementer » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:20 pm

Jimbob has linked to the source above. It's supposed to be in the future after ocean level rise and political turmoil, but the f.ckwit who came up with it couldn't be arsed to redraw the coastlines.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:50 am

basementer wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:20 pm
Jimbob has linked to the source above. It's supposed to be in the future after ocean level rise and political turmoil, but the f.ckwit who came up with it couldn't be arsed to redraw the coastlines.
That's why Lake Chad and the Aral Sea are the size they are People built barriers around the world and put all the excess water in those places.
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by jimbob » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:59 am

jimbob wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 pm
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Now removed by Twitter.

And possibly a discussion about time travel debugging, which makes it funnier
I was giving her too much credit
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Re: COVID-19 conspiracy motherlode

Post by Little waster » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:42 pm

My parents got a shiny leaflet through the letterbox pushing the usual dangerous anti-Vaxx, anti-mask, Scamdemic b.llsh.t.

According to them it is supposedly written by three GPs.

Caveats: I haven’t seen it so don’t know if they actually claim to be GPs, or just happen to have Doctor in front of their name (doctor of what? Naturopathy? Theology? Engineering? Literature?) also haven’t been able to confirm if the writers are genuine people and not just invented by the c.nts behind the leaflet. They certainly aren’t local GPs whose names I recognise.

Assuming however they are genuine people and genuinely GPs, I wonder if there would be any mileage in filing a complaint to the GMC? I’ve asked them to email me a copy if they can fish it out recycling.
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