COVID-19 in the United States

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by lpm » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:04 am

Herainestold wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:05 am
The news from America just gets worse every day. Cases keep on rising with no end in sight.
...writes Herainestold when US cases have passed a peak and have started falling.
What ever happened to that Trump guy, you know, the one who was president for a bit?

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by shpalman » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:04 am

lpm wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:04 am
Herainestold wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:05 am
The news from America just gets worse every day. Cases keep on rising with no end in sight.
...writes Herainestold when US cases have passed a peak and have started falling.
It's going up!

It's going down!

what have I told you about opposite qualitative changes from small quantitative changes?
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Personally I'd not set much store by the last two points they look a bit glitchy. But in terms of case rates, the UK is now worse, but it does of course have better vaccination coverage and therefore fewer deaths.
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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by shpalman » Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:22 am

shpalman wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:04 am
Personally I'd not set much store by the last two points they look a bit glitchy.
(It was Labor Day.)
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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by shpalman » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:25 am

The US does however have a much higher positive rate than the UK so it's fair to say they have a high number of undetected cases:
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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by shpalman » Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:03 pm

Fauci
“The endgame is to suppress the virus,” Fauci said. “Right now, we’re still in pandemic mode, because we have 160,000 new infections a day.”

“In a country of our size, you can’t be hanging around and having 100,000 infections a day. You’ve got to get well below 10,000 before you start feeling comfortable,” he said.
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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by dyqik » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:29 pm

shpalman wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:22 am
shpalman wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:04 am
Personally I'd not set much store by the last two points they look a bit glitchy.
(It was Labor Day.)
Labor Day is also the last major travel/party weekend of the summer, and approximately marks schools reopening in many states. So except a surge from that.

There'll also be a surge in testing from universities starting term, with testing requirements (at least in the sensible states) on in-person students.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by monkey » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:11 pm

Biden/Department of Labor looks like it's going to mandate vaccinations or weekly tests for people working at places with over 100 employees - clicky

It'll go through the courts, obvs. I think some Republicans are going to explode.

There's a few other things there too, but that seems like the biggy.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by lpm » Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:42 pm

How can Biden possibly think he has the power to do this?

This is worse than Obama's presidential overreach.
What ever happened to that Trump guy, you know, the one who was president for a bit?

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by monkey » Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:03 pm

lpm wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:42 pm
How can Biden possibly think he has the power to do this?

This is worse than Obama's presidential overreach.
I imagine they will say "It's elf and saftey, innit." But with lawyer talk.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by tom p » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:14 am

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Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:34 am
Raymond Burke wrote:Then, there is the mysterious Wuhan virus about whose nature and prevention the mass media daily give us conflicting information. What is clear, however, is that it has been used by certain forces, inimical to families and to the freedom of states, to advance their evil agenda. These forces tell us that we are now the subjects of the so-called “Great Reset”, the “New Normal”, which is dictated to us by their manipulation of citizens and nations through ignorance and fear. Now, we are supposed to find in a disease and its prevention the way to understand and direct our lives, rather than in God and in His plan for our salvation. The response of many Bishops and priests, and of many faithful has manifested a woeful lack of sound catechesis. So many in the Church seem to have no understanding of how Christ continues His saving work in times of plague and of other disasters.
So many in the Church know f.ck all about basic biology or indeed about anything, you bigoted old c.nt, but at least the Pope has spoken out in favour of everyone getting vaccinated.
In all fairness to cardianl Burke, manipulation of people through ignorance and fear is totally the catholic church's MO, so you can understand him being a bit shirty about governments parking their tanks on his lawn, as he sees it.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by tom p » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:18 am

Will they use capitalist death panels to decide who gets treatment and who doesn't?

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by monkey » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:06 pm

tom p wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:18 am
Will they use capitalist death panels to decide who gets treatment and who doesn't?
With the efficiencies of capitalism this is done before people get ill by checking what sort of insurance people can afford.

(The US health system's default state is to ration healthcare by pricing people out of it)

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by Woodchopper » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:35 pm


“F**k Joe Biden" and "Trump Won" people chant as they eat at Vaccinated only food court without showing their vaccination cards.
https://mobile.twitter.com/scootercaste ... 2001086468

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by Herainestold » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:37 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:35 pm

“F**k Joe Biden" and "Trump Won" people chant as they eat at Vaccinated only food court without showing their vaccination cards.
https://mobile.twitter.com/scootercaste ... 2001086468
America is a failed state.
Vaccination saves lives. Lockdowns stop transmission.We need both to end this pandemic.

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