COVID-19 in the United States

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by Gfamily » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:08 pm

dyqik wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:47 pm
lpm wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 am
Hurricane Maria in 2017 was 3,507.
Not sure if that was all in one day, but yeah, that one may be missing.
Not all in US either - though mostly in Puerto Rico.
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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by jimbob » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:08 am

dyqik wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:47 pm
lpm wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 am
Well that list is obviously flawed.

Where's the 1918-19 flu pandemic? That must have peaked at this sort of range even with the much lower population.
How about the other disease outbreaks of the 19th Century?
Not sure about 1918-19 flu, but it may never have spread as widely as fast, meaning the death rate might have been more spread out over the pandemic (675,000 deaths over just under a year, is 2000ish per day at a constant rate. We're not that high an annual rate yet, but give it a few weeks). Earlier outbreaks are unlikely to make this list, as the population was so much smaller, and travel so much less.
lpm wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 am
Where's the San Francisco earthquake?
Official death toll of 700, and an estimate 3-4 times that in total, over more than one day, means it doesn't make the list (any more, at least).
lpm wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 am
D-Day was 2,500 US soldiers.
Not in the US, although they are US people. Going down the route of "what does American History mean here?" probably means you need to include Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, etc. And D-Day will have dropped off the list now, as there have been 13 days of >3000 CoVID deaths now.
lpm wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 am
Hurricane Maria in 2017 was 3,507.
Not sure if that was all in one day, but yeah, that one may be missing.
In the UK the last year that had over 600000 deaths was 1918
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by Woodchopper » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:52 pm

COVID-19 has generated a huge mortality toll in the United States, with a disproportionate number of deaths occurring among the Black and Latino populations. Measures of life expectancy quantify these disparities in an easily interpretable way. We project that COVID-19 will reduce US life expectancy in 2020 by 1.13 y. Estimated reductions for the Black and Latino populations are 3 to 4 times that for Whites. Consequently, COVID-19 is expected to reverse over 10 y of progress made in closing the Black−White gap in life expectancy and reduce the previous Latino mortality advantage by over 70%. Some reduction in life expectancy may persist beyond 2020 because of continued COVID-19 mortality and long-term health, social, and economic impacts of the pandemic.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/5/e2014746118

A good riposte to those who claim its no worse than normal seasonal flu.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by dyqik » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:37 pm

This was mentioned over the political threads, but the Trump administration has been lying about the number of vaccine doses it has. After announcing that it wasn't going to hold back doses for second jabs any more, it turns out that it hadn't actually been holding any back, and has already basically run out.

We were probably looking at April at the very earliest for under 65s to start getting doses here in Massachusetts, before this news appeared.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by shpalman » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:20 pm

dyqik wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:37 pm
This was mentioned over the political threads, but the Trump administration has been lying about the number of vaccine doses it has. After announcing that it wasn't going to hold back doses for second jabs any more, it turns out that it hadn't actually been holding any back, and has already basically run out.

We were probably looking at April at the very earliest for under 65s to start getting doses here in Massachusetts, before this news appeared.
Pity, the US seemed to be achieving a fairly respectable normalized-for-population rate.
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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by bolo » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:02 pm

A lot of variability by state, though, and not necessarily in a way that I would have anticipated.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... doses.html

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by dyqik » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:26 pm

bolo wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:02 pm
A lot of variability by state, though, and not necessarily in a way that I would have anticipated.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... doses.html
Some otherwise sensible governors can't seem to get past the idea that you mustn't give the vaccine to anyone who isn't on the appropriate high priority list, even if the dose would otherwise be thrown out.

Cuomo and Baker have both been doing that.

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Re: COVID-19 in the United States

Post by monkey » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:09 am

bolo wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:02 pm
A lot of variability by state, though, and not necessarily in a way that I would have anticipated.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... doses.html
There's plenty of variability within states too.

We're pretty good round here, we have sensible people running things. A rural county just south of me has no vaccinations being done because it doesn't have a health department, which the state health department decided should organise things.

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