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Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:44 am
by Bird on a Fire
The government wants everyone to get new phones so the amount of 5G increases so they can perpetuate the coronavirus hoax and make everyone stay at home indefinitely which benefits them in some way
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:01 pm
by JQH
Grumble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:43 am
lpm wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:03 am
The government should pay for JQH's new phone.
JQH should make himself a new phone from his own bootstraps.
Got some tins and a length of string.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:06 pm
by shpalman
"can't smell string = you have covid"
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:22 pm
by Grumble
shpalman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:06 pm
"can't smell string = you have covid"
Definitely true in the case of JQH’s string.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:26 pm
by shpalman
Also if the string is at least 2 metres long it will help with not catching it.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:05 pm
by shpalman
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am
by MartinDurkin
My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:34 am
by badger
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am
My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
Weird there's no inbox for notifications. I've just checked mine and can't see anything either. Maybe phone Test & Trace?
What's to be gained by not having a repository for notifications in the app? Odd design choice, to say the least.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:37 am
by Gfamily
I think thats an example of an issue that can be raised here.
https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/create-case/
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:44 am
by MartinDurkin
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 am
by bagpuss
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am
My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
There was a report on the Today programme this morning of exactly this happening to someone. A spokesman was
very clear that if there's been a genuine contact it
will be obvious within the app. If there's just a notification with nothing in the app, then it should be reported as per Gfamily's link
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:02 pm
by sTeamTraen
Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:44 am
The government wants everyone to get new phones so the amount of 5G increases so they can perpetuate the coronavirus hoax and make everyone stay at home indefinitely which benefits them in some way
"In some way" = "More kickbacks from Bill Gates". Duh.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:56 pm
by MartinDurkin
bagpuss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 am
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am
My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
There was a report on the Today programme this morning of exactly this happening to someone. A spokesman was
very clear that if there's been a genuine contact it
will be obvious within the app. If there's just a notification with nothing in the app, then it should be reported as per Gfamily's link
On some level I feel bad for preferring advice from a random anonymous person* on the internet over a government approved app, but that's where we're at I guess.
*No disrespect intended bagpuss
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:58 pm
by bagpuss
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:56 pm
bagpuss wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 am
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am
My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
There was a report on the Today programme this morning of exactly this happening to someone. A spokesman was
very clear that if there's been a genuine contact it
will be obvious within the app. If there's just a notification with nothing in the app, then it should be reported as per Gfamily's link
On some level I feel bad for preferring advice from a random anonymous person* on the internet over a government approved app, but that's where we're at I guess.
*No disrespect intended bagpuss
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:42 pm
by Gfamily
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am
My phone (Samsung A70 on latest Android) has the English NHS T&T app installed. This morning I got an alert on my lockscreen saying I had been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. When I unlocked the phone the notification had disappeared and there is nothing in the app to confirm the contact. It seems I am now supposed to quarantine for 14 days on the strength of this fleeting, possibly misread, notification.
Anyone else had the same? Surely the app should retain some record of any notifications.
According to the BBC...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54326267
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Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:16 pm
by bolo
I have the Virginia version of this app. I get weekly notifications reminding me that it's turned on and working. It's very clear that these are NOT exposure notifications. If the UK app can't tell the difference, then it's a load of crap to blame that on Apple and Google.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:51 pm
by shpalman
Yeah the Italian app also occasionally pops up a notification just to say that it's still working. It says something like "Exposure notifications are on" (the app actually has a pretty good English translation). It will also pop up to warn me if bluetooth is off for some reason.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:56 pm
by discovolante
Yep I get that on the Scotland one too.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:58 am
by kerrya1
Yes, the Scottish one has a weekly message just letting you know it's still running, and it's pretty clear that thats all it is.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:17 pm
by Grumble
Mine popped a message up which wasn’t totally clear but I didn’t think it was warning me of a problem.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:57 pm
by shpalman
Actually I noticed by tapping on it that the notification comes from the operating system, which then shows you the app which is using the API.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:48 am
by MartinDurkin
Well I had another notification on my lockscreen. I was a bit more careful this time and when I unlocked the phone there was a notification icon at the top of the screen. Pulling down revealed a message saying something like "Someone near you has tested positive for COVID19 ...". I assumed there would be more info available and clicked on the notification, but that just opened the app which has no notification record inside it and of course the notification has disappeard.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:20 am
by bagpuss
MartinDurkin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:48 am
Well I had another notification on my lockscreen. I was a bit more careful this time and when I unlocked the phone there was a notification icon at the top of the screen. Pulling down revealed a message saying something like "Someone near you has tested positive for COVID19 ...". I assumed there would be more info available and clicked on the notification, but that just opened the app which has no notification record inside it and of course the notification has disappeard.
I wonder if this means that you've been briefly in range of someone who's tested positive but that the system/app has assessed the contact as minimal or very low risk or whatever - eg if the bluetooth signal was weak and you were only in range for a very brief time.
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:37 am
by headshot
Possibly, but it really shouldn't be this ambiguous should it?!
Re: UK Track and Trace Apps
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:14 pm
by philip
It appears that random sites on the internet have more information than the NHS site:
https://twitter.com/brad_lead/status/13 ... 6211262466