Vaccine rollout in the UK

[Grumble]

My dad’s experience of getting vaccinated in Whalley Range where a big centre has been set up was not great. It was overcrowded, everyone sat less than a metre apart, and all the older Asian men seemed incapable of wearing a mask properly. The women were wearing the things properly, so god knows why the men can’t. Perhaps they associate covering your face with wearing a niqab and therefore a sign of femininity or something? At least all the windows were open and it was well ventilated.

[KAJ]

All the teachers and TAs where my daughter teaches have been told to get their vaccinations. It is Special Needs (School for Autistic Children in Birmingham). She understands that Birmingham have decided to push Teachers in Special Education up the queue because of the problems of maintaining social distancing with special needs children. Some of the school staff have had their vaccination.

Huh Told by who? I couldn't book a vaccination until invited by the NHS. Did those teachers and TAs receive such an invitation?

[headshot]

All the teachers and TAs where my daughter teaches have been told to get their vaccinations. It is Special Needs (School for Autistic Children in Birmingham). She understands that Birmingham have decided to push Teachers in Special Education up the queue because of the problems of maintaining social distancing with special needs children. Some of the school staff have had their vaccination.

Huh Told by who? I couldn't book a vaccination until invited by the NHS. Did those teachers and TAs receive such an invitation?

A person I know (in her early 50s) who works at a special school in Birmingham has been vaccinated through her school's network.

[mediocrity511]

It seems that lots of councils are now coming round to the point of view that many staff in special schools perform exactly the same kind of close contact physical care as their colleagues in social care. I think it's the right decision, it seems wrong that the staff caring for a severely disabled child in a residential placement would be vaccinated yet the staff who care for them Monday to Friday day times wouldn't be

[lpm]

All the teachers and TAs where my daughter teaches have been told to get their vaccinations. It is Special Needs (School for Autistic Children in Birmingham). She understands that Birmingham have decided to push Teachers in Special Education up the queue because of the problems of maintaining social distancing with special needs children. Some of the school staff have had their vaccination.

Huh :o Told by who? I couldn't book a vaccination until invited by the NHS. Did those teachers and TAs receive such an invitation?

A person I know (in her early 50s) who works at a special school in Birmingham has been vaccinated through her school's network.

There are NHS people who get told "Phone up all SEN teachers and get them vaccinated". Jess, aged 19, gets given the assignment and doesn't know where to start. But Jess gets there by starting the ball rolling with a couple of SEN teachers, then tells them to spread the word to every other SEN teacher they know, sharing Jess's phone number/email address.

It's a bit chaotic but it mostly works. These things have needed to be set up at very short notice - it's not like we had most of a year from March 2020 to January 2021 to pre-prepare this rollout.

[Trinucleus]

Mrs T and I (66 &65, no serious health conditions, living in Sheffield) have just been invited for our first jabs tomorrow.

Very pleasantly surprised

[Blackcountryboy]

All the teachers and TAs where my daughter teaches have been told to get their vaccinations. It is Special Needs (School for Autistic Children in Birmingham). She understands that Birmingham have decided to push Teachers in Special Education up the queue because of the problems of maintaining social distancing with special needs children. Some of the school staff have had their vaccination.

Huh Told by who? I couldn't book a vaccination until invited by the NHS. Did those teachers and TAs receive such an invitation?

The school had to inform the Education Dept. how many staff there were and the staff were later told to book their vaccinations at Millennium Point, Hartlandes or Queen Elizabeth.

Edited for spelling.

[KAJ]

All the teachers and TAs where my daughter teaches have been told to get their vaccinations. It is Special Needs (School for Autistic Children in Birmingham). She understands that Birmingham have decided to push Teachers in Special Education up the queue because of the problems of maintaining social distancing with special needs children. Some of the school staff have had their vaccination.

Huh Told by who? I couldn't book a vaccination until invited by the NHS. Did those teachers and TAs receive such an invitation?

The school had to inform the Education Dept. how many staff there were and the staff were later told to book their vaccinations at Millennium Point, Hartlandes or Queen Elizabeth.

Edited for spelling.

It seems that local authorities are varying from the JCVI priority groups - not necessarily a bad thing.

[EACLucifer]

Mrs T and I (66 &65, no serious health conditions, living in Sheffield) have just been invited for our first jabs tomorrow.

Very pleasantly surprised

I had to chase my GP and was told they had been told by "the government" they were to do 60-70yos before clinically extremely vulnerable people. I was not impressed, and nor was the GP receptionist, who got me sorted out with an appointment pronto. Not sure to what extent this is conspiracy or cockup, but from the perspective of someone both vulnerable and suffering from shielding, it hurt to know that I'd apparently been de-prioritised, and that it could have been worse had I not chased them.

[Trinucleus]

Mrs T and I (66 &65, no serious health conditions, living in Sheffield) have just been invited for our first jabs tomorrow.

Very pleasantly surprised

I had to chase my GP and was told they had been told by "the government" they were to do 60-70yos before clinically extremely vulnerable people. I was not impressed, and nor was the GP receptionist, who got me sorted out with an appointment pronto. Not sure to what extent this is conspiracy or cockup, but from the perspective of someone both vulnerable and suffering from shielding, it hurt to know that I'd apparently been de-prioritised, and that it could have been worse had I not chased them.

Glad you got it sorted. I was expecting to hear sometime in March

[EACLucifer]

Mrs T and I (66 &65, no serious health conditions, living in Sheffield) have just been invited for our first jabs tomorrow.

Very pleasantly surprised

I had to chase my GP and was told they had been told by "the government" they were to do 60-70yos before clinically extremely vulnerable people. I was not impressed, and nor was the GP receptionist, who got me sorted out with an appointment pronto. Not sure to what extent this is conspiracy or cockup, but from the perspective of someone both vulnerable and suffering from shielding, it hurt to know that I'd apparently been de-prioritised, and that it could have been worse had I not chased them.

Glad you got it sorted. I was expecting to hear sometime in March

Glad you are getting done too, to be clear, I do not mean in any way that I resent anyone getting done early, just the confusion that it appears my GP was subjected to

[shpalman]

Vaccine not showing an obvious effect on "casse rates" yet

EtikmuyWgAIvyBG.png (74.86 KiB) Viewed 3825 times

[lpm]

Not sure that's a good metric. And if it is, it'll only be good for a very short period. The UK is racing on to 70-80s, plus a load of <70s, so that diminishes the difference you'd expect to see.

I think hospitalisation data is the place to measure. Halfway between deaths (lags too long) and cases (distorted by incomplete testing).

[shpalman]

20210206_164712.jpg (105.25 KiB) Viewed 3791 times

It's a good enough metric in Israel.

In England we* only have the age breakdown of cases and deaths.

[headshot]

Aye. Most of the 60-somethings I know now have their first doses schedule in the next week or so, so that’s a fair point.

[JQH]

Aye. Most of the 60-somethings I know now have their first doses schedule in the next week or so, so that’s a fair point.

I've not heard anything yet(61)

[shpalman]

We* also don't have data on how the rollout is moving through the categories and age groups broken down by region or local authority, otherwise we'd be able to compare the case and death data by age group between regions with different progress in vaccinating.

[lpm]

Good you're 1st dosed, EACL. Any plans for your 2 week jabiversary?

[Trinucleus]

Mrs T and I (66 &65, no serious health conditions, living in Sheffield) have just been invited for our first jabs tomorrow.

Very pleasantly surprised

Done (AstraZeneca)

Just hoping there's no adverse reaction with onion bhajis or we're in trouble

[nezumi]

I've got my jab #1 on Monday, but it won't be til April 29th for jab #2.

[mediocrity511]

We* also don't have data on how the rollout is moving through the categories and age groups broken down by region or local authority, otherwise we'd be able to compare the case and death data by age group between regions with different progress in vaccinating.

The data does exist, for example I know our local area only had 80% of their over 80s done the other day as the local council announced it. It may not all be public at the moment (and I suspect areas like ours that are likely going to miss their targets wouldn't be keen) but it exists.

[shpalman]

FB_IMG_1612642605830.jpg (73.03 KiB) Viewed 3698 times

Well I do expect that the data exist, they just aren't on the UK dot govid dashboard.

[raven]

[my brother-in-law is getting his jab next week. He's not even 40 yet, but he's asthmatic so I guess he's in that 'clinically vulnerable' group. His area is really on the ball, racing through the groups.

Is he in a shielding group, or chronic asthmatic in group 6?

Frau HS is in the latter group.

I think in the 16-64 with underlying health conditions group. He's definitely not sheilding. He was quite surprised to get called so soon.

[headshot]

[my brother-in-law is getting his jab next week. He's not even 40 yet, but he's asthmatic so I guess he's in that 'clinically vulnerable' group. His area is really on the ball, racing through the groups.

Is he in a shielding group, or chronic asthmatic in group 6?

Frau HS is in the latter group.

I think in the 16-64 with underlying health conditions group. He's definitely not sheilding. He was quite surprised to get called so soon.

Oh cool. That’s the same group Frau HS is in.

[shpalman]

Andy Burnham, the Labour mayor of Greater Manchester, is appearing now to argue that life expectancy rates in different areas should be a factor in vaccine distribution across the UK

We note that Covid cases are falling more slowly in poor regions