Vaccine rollout in Italy

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:01 pm

But anyway, Italy now has a higher proportion of its whole population fully vaccinated than the UK dose.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:21 pm

Ah ok maybe it has something to do with the 4.4 million people who have recovered from covid only needing one dose of a two-dose vaccine or something, such that there are 4.4 million vaccine doses which I've been considering as second doses which are actually first doses.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by Herainestold » Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:18 pm

shpalman wrote:
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But anyway, Italy now has a higher proportion of its whole population fully vaccinated than the UK dose.
Excellent. The EU in general is really doing much better now that supply has stabilized.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:54 am

I don't believe it the Italian vaccination rollout page now has the "at least one dose" total on it, as of an update this morning. Yeah it's 44.3 million and I've been calculating it wrong.

This change was made so that also the number of third doses can be included.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:02 am

Herainestold wrote:
Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:18 pm
shpalman wrote:
Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:01 pm
But anyway, Italy now has a higher proportion of its whole population fully vaccinated than the UK dose.
Excellent. The EU in general is really doing much better now that supply has stabilized.
We've all managed to vaccinate just about everyone who wants to be vaccinated and are now trying to find ways to persuade more people.

Turns out "less chance of dying" isn't a good enough reason on its own for some people.

Italy's CFR is still maybe about 1%, compared to 0.4% in the UK, which means we'd have at least double the death rate if we let cases do what the UK let them do. This is probably because our coverage is more spread across the age range with significant proportions of older people unprotected.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:43 pm

Lots of people who presumably "did their own research" until now have been to get vaccinated today so as to be able to carry on doing their jobs next month.

One guy said "well, rather than dying of hunger..."

Well if it works on morons who didn't care about dying of the virus, then it works.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:59 pm

Some screengrabs from the latest weekly press conference on the regional monitoring.

Incidence per 100,000 in young people as a function of date shows the cases were concentrated in the 16-19 age range in July but is similar across all children now, which maybe means it's higher in the younger children than you'd expect.
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Vaccine coverage isn't too bad:
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:56 pm

There's an interesting set of graphs towards the bottom of the GEDI Visual vaccination page.
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In each age range they show the proportion unvaccinated (blue), unfully vaccinated (pink), and fully vaccinated (yellow) for the following categories (left to right): the population as a whole, the new covid cases, the cases taken to hospital*, the cases in intensive care, and the deaths. So it's clear how the blue proportion is over-represented as compared to the proportion in the general population.

* - "ricoverati" doesn't mean "recovered" from covid, which would be "recuperare" rather than "ricoverare", it means admitted to hospital.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Italy

Post by shpalman » Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:32 pm

Getting closer to 80% of the 12-and-overs fully vaccinated, such reach that threshold next week.

Cases have been decreasing steadily for about a month and are currently at about 35/100,000/week on average in Italy but the effect of schools opening is probably going to start showing up now because the decrease seems to have slowed.
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