Vaccine rollout in Spain

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:01 pm

Today:

- The European Medicines Agency recommended that people under 60 who have had a first AstraZeneca does should have the second on schedule.
- The Balearic Islands health authorities suspended the second AstraZeneca dose for 8000 teachers under 60. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Opti » Tue May 04, 2021 4:33 pm

First (AZ) jab today. ddb gets hers tomorrow. The system now seems to be running very smoothly. Limited only by supply issues.
Time for a big fat one.

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Tue May 04, 2021 11:18 pm

Opti wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:33 pm
First (AZ) jab today. ddb gets hers tomorrow. The system now seems to be running very smoothly. Limited only by supply issues.
2.4 million people jabbed in the last 7 days! :shock:
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Mon May 10, 2021 6:14 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:41 am
PARTY!!!!!
Here in Baleares, most of the restrictions have continued despite the lifting of the state of alarm. This includes the curfew, which surprised me—I appreciate that the regional government can impose whatever restrictions it wants on the opening hours of the hospitality sector for which it hands out licences, but without wishing to go all Magna Carta, I would have thought that going out of your house at night comes under fairly basic freedoms that the constitution ought to protect. But it went to the regional court and they OK'd it.

We are now at 55 cases/100k/14 days, which is only a little higher than the UK. People here were disappointed that the UK's green list is per-country and not per-region, because in the latter case we would have been on it with some margin.

Meanwhile Spain vaccinated 2.7 million people in the last week. :D
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by shpalman » Tue May 11, 2021 5:02 pm

Wow, we're still generally at about 100/100,000/week here, with the province of Como remaining a bit higher.

(That's the rate the UK had at the end of February).
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Opti » Tue May 18, 2021 8:23 am

Phone call this morning.
2nd AZ jab next Tuesday. Things are moving at pace here now. Not that many refusers (mostly Brit enclave dwellers).
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Sat May 29, 2021 1:23 pm

Here in the Balearics (and I guess the same applies across all of Spain), we have to decide what to do with the 28,000 or so people who have had a first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine and are under 60 (the age below which the blood clots issue is officially considered to be a problem, although here is a 67-year-old who may have had it). These people are mostly health care workers, teachers, and others in front-line professions. They will be offered a choice:

1. Get a second dose of AZ after signing an informed consent form. Apparently there are far fewer blood clot incidents after the second dose, presumably because if it's going to happen it will already have happened the first time.

2. Get a Pfizer jab as their second dose. No informed consent required, and most people probably wanted Pfizer anyway. Two problems here:
- Nobody is sure of the efficacy of the mixed approach. It could be lower, the same, or higher. Trials are apparently underway, but with infection rates falling and people getting vaccinated at some speed, I think they may have trouble getting enough volunteers.
- The mixed-vaccine approach is not approved by the WHO or EMA. So as things stand today, someone who has had this will not be eligible for "has completed an approved vaccine course" travel and other privileges.

Mrs sTeamTraen and I had our first AZ doses six weeks ago and are due to have the second in mid-July. We don't expect to be offered the above choice, as we are in the over-60 category, but if we are, we will go for the second AZ dose.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Herainestold » Sat May 29, 2021 4:18 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 1:23 pm
Here in the Balearics (and I guess the same applies across all of Spain), we have to decide what to do with the 28,000 or so people who have had a first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine and are under 60 (the age below which the blood clots issue is officially considered to be a problem, although here is a 67-year-old who may have had it). These people are mostly health care workers, teachers, and others in front-line professions. They will be offered a choice:

1. Get a second dose of AZ after signing an informed consent form. Apparently there are far fewer blood clot incidents after the second dose, presumably because if it's going to happen it will already have happened the first time.

2. Get a Pfizer jab as their second dose. No informed consent required, and most people probably wanted Pfizer anyway. Two problems here:
- Nobody is sure of the efficacy of the mixed approach. It could be lower, the same, or higher. Trials are apparently underway, but with infection rates falling and people getting vaccinated at some speed, I think they may have trouble getting enough volunteers.
- The mixed-vaccine approach is not approved by the WHO or EMA. So as things stand today, someone who has had this will not be eligible for "has completed an approved vaccine course" travel and other privileges.

Mrs sTeamTraen and I had our first AZ doses six weeks ago and are due to have the second in mid-July. We don't expect to be offered the above choice, as we are in the over-60 category, but if we are, we will go for the second AZ dose.
There was a Spanish study that showed the AZ/Pfizer combo resulted in increased antibodies, which could correlate with higher efficacy.
MADRID (Reuters) -A Spanish study on mixing COVID-19 vaccines has found that giving a dose of Pfizer's drug to people who already received a first shot of AstraZeneca vaccine is highly safe and effective, preliminary results showed on Tuesday.

The Combivacs study, run by Spain's state-backed Carlos III Health Institute, found the presence of IgG antibodies in the bloodstream was between 30 and 40 times higher in people who got the follow-up Pfizer shot than in a control group who only received one AstraZeneca dose.

Meanwhile, the presence of neutralising antibodies rose sevenfold after a Pfizer dose, significantly more than the doubling effect observed after a second AstraZeneca shot.
https://news.yahoo.com/spanish-study-fi ... 31335.html
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Sun May 30, 2021 9:59 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 4:18 pm
There was a Spanish study that showed the AZ/Pfizer combo resulted in increased antibodies, which could correlate with higher efficacy.
Thanks. I can think of "intuitive" reasons both for and against.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:23 am

Spain performed 3.18 million vaccinations in the week to 7 June, compared with 3.58 million for the UK, whose population is 42% higher. I suspect the pool of potential vaccinees is starting to run out in the UK, with 77% of adults now having had a first dose.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:24 pm

I just got my EU digital Covid certificate in 60 seconds from the regional health authority's web site, using the Spanish secure digital ID system which is available to every citizen, requiring only an ID card and a phone that can receive SMS messages.

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