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Vaccine rollout in Spain

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:00 pm

Sensibly, they're keeping the doses they have for people needing the second jab, rather than moving onto new people.

My understanding is that EU countries have all been allocated jabs per capita through the centralised buying scheme, so the countries that were quickest off the mark are going to start running out around now until the supply issues are sorted. We might be seeing more of this.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:59 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
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Sensibly, they're keeping the doses they have for people needing the second jab, rather than moving onto new people.

My understanding is that EU countries have all been allocated jabs per capita through the centralised buying scheme, so the countries that were quickest off the mark are going to start running out around now until the supply issues are sorted. We might be seeing more of this.
310,000 doses given in the last week, of which about 185,000 were second shots. I'm keeping the Spanish numbers updated daily here. We need more supplies quite quickly.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Opti » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:05 pm

There was a well-spaced line with fast turnover at our local Centro de Salud today. Maybe the bulk carrier has arrived.
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Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:23 pm

It doesn't look like all of the per-country rollout threads are going to be merged (although I'd be in favour...), so here's another.

Spain is doing OK by EU standards, maybe even slightly better. They publish their vaccine statistics per region every weekday, and I am assembling them into a handy web-based table here. The number of shots given per week was around 400,000 (about 0.85% of the population, or 0.425% of the shots required to give everyone two) in January and 460,000 in February, but it has risen quite a bit this month and we may hit a million over the next 7 days. I don't know if the increase is due to more resources going in to the process, or simply that vaccinating people in care homes and front-line workers is more complex than having ambulatory patients just turn up.

Everyone gets two shots on the manufacturer's approved schedule, so nationally we have 3.2% of the population fully vaccinated as of this evening, which I think is higher than the UK. (People who have already had Covid will only get one shot, as I believe is also the case in France.)

It's been decided that the AstraZeneca vaccine will only be given to under-55s, as there is believed to be insufficient data on its efficacy in older people. (I also wonder if it may be because some of the numbers for the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine after two shots and a couple of months are amazing; I think I saw 98.5% mentioned in a report from Israel. 98.5 versus 95 doesn't look that impressive, but subtract it from 100 and it's three times fewer cases.)

As a result we have the strange situation, at least here in the Balearic Islands, that from next Monday we will start vaccinating 45-55 year olds with AZ, while we are still finishing the non-institutionalised 80+ age group with the Pfizer vaccine (there are also a few doses of Moderna, but I get the impression that they simply aren't manufacturing as many; it doesn't seem to appear in news reports very often). The 55-79 age groups (including me) will have to wait a bit, but knowing that when my turn comes I will get an mRNA vaccine with a 3-week gap between shots is reassuring. We are also doing pretty well on infection numbers here (under 30 cases per 100k population in the last 7 days), so while that holds the urgency is a bit less.

The regional government here also has a plan to increase vaccinations to 86,000 per week, which is about 7.5% of the entire population and probably 10-11% of the not-yet-vaccinated population over 25. :o So that would have two shots delivered to almost everybody before July. There is an old hospital a couple of miles from my house where they are aiming to have 10 drive-through lanes running 10-12 hours per day. If they can get the vaccines delivered then this will be amazing and we can have a summer. 35% of our GDP here comes from tourism.

One confusing factor is that the whole programme is (quite reasonably) being organised by the Spanish national health system (which is quite close to the NHS model, with most treatment being free at the point of delivery), but a lot of foreigners have only private insurance and simply aren't on the radar of the state system. This being Spain, you need to be registered one way or another, and nobody is quite sure how to do it. Round here the regional government is aware of the situation and is setting up a specific phone number, but over in Andalusia there was a report a week ago of some regional councillor saying "Well, the foreigners who aren't in the Spanish system can just go back to 'their country' [sic] for the vaccination", thus demonstrating her ignorance of about 10 relevant things (despite her online profile claiming that she is an immigration expert). So people there are facepalming a bit.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by shpalman » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:31 pm

We could at least merge this thread with the Vaccine rollout in Spain thread.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:42 pm

Clearly I am in the "incipient dementia" risk category and should get my vaccine next week.
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Post by discovolante » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:40 pm

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by bolo » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:44 pm

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Clearly I am in the "incipient dementia" risk category and should get my vaccine next week.
Didn't you already get it last week?

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Brightonian » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:05 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:23 pm
It doesn't look like all of the per-country rollout threads are going to be merged (although I'd be in favour...)
I'd be in favour too. In fact, just as I was starting the UK one I wondered whether it should have simply been "Vaccine rollout", but I just let it go.

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Herainestold » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:29 am

discovolante wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:40 pm
Done.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by shpalman » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:11 am

Brightonian wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:05 pm
sTeamTraen wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:23 pm
It doesn't look like all of the per-country rollout threads are going to be merged (although I'd be in favour...)
I'd be in favour too. In fact, just as I was starting the UK one I wondered whether it should have simply been "Vaccine rollout", but I just let it go.
Well for some points a generalized "Vaccine rollout in the EU" thread might have made more sense, but in general, let's not have more unwieldy megathreads.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by lpm » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:30 am

"Vaccine rollout in San Marino" was possibly over optimistic.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Bird on a Fire » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:45 am

lpm wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:30 am
"Vaccine rollout in San Marino" was possibly over optimistic.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by shpalman » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:55 am

Only political incompetence can explain a set of blunders that will be paid for in human lives and economic damage across the EU.

Well, these few days of interruption may have delayed the doses for the order of a couple of hundred thousand people per country.

Not much compared to the tens of millions of doses which were contracted for and won't be delivered, or will show up a few months late.

In the EU everyone thinks their country is particularly sh.t but Spain is in line with the EU average.

If usage is in line with the average, and delivery scales with population, I expect Spain is "sitting on" roughly the number of doses it can use in a week or two in order to keep the rollout smooth since you never know if or when supply might suddenly dry up.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by bob sterman » Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:18 am

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Well, these few days of interruption may have delayed the doses for the order of a couple of hundred thousand people per country.
But it's not just the official pause while waiting for the EMA results. The article is about more than that. It's also the way public statements and policies will have undermined trust in vaccines, and will reduce vaccine uptake. The article covers a range of blunders including Macron's "quasi-ineffective" claim about the AZ vaccine.

A few hundred thousand people more per country - vaccinated during the rising phase of a third wave of infections - could have significant benefits.

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by shpalman » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:00 am

bob sterman wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:18 am
shpalman wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:55 am
Well, these few days of interruption may have delayed the doses for the order of a couple of hundred thousand people per country.
But it's not just the official pause while waiting for the EMA results. The article is about more than that. It's also the way public statements and policies will have undermined trust in vaccines, and will reduce vaccine uptake. The article covers a range of blunders including Macron's "quasi-ineffective" claim about the AZ vaccine.
I appreciate that, but in the EU we are still firmly in the regime of not having nearly enough vaccines for everyone who wants one, not that we have lots of vaccines which nobody wants.

The doses we are "sitting on" probably correspond to about 7-10 days' supply, although we may be able to go faster if it seems like both Pfizer and AstraZeneca are going to start delivering the doses they said they would.
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A few hundred thousand people more per country - vaccinated during the rising phase of a third wave of infections - could have significant benefits.
It will probably only take about a week to catch up, because the rollout was so slow in the first place.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:44 pm

1.25 million doses administered in the last week; the first million-plus week of the campaign and a big bounce back from the previous week's AZ panic.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:41 pm

There has been some criticism where I live (Baleares) that the vaccine rollout has been going a bit slower then elsewhere in Spain. We are about 17th or 18th out of 19 regions, depending on which measure you use.

The general criticism is "we aren't vaccinating fast enough" (well duh, nobody is), but the percentage of the population vaccinated in each region correlates 0.97 with the number of doses received per 100K population (left-hand pane below, r=0.97), so then it becomes "we probably aren't fighting hard enough to get doses from the central government", as if that particular zero-sum game means anything.

Of course, someone has to be last, but there seems to be a concrete explanation in the right-hand pane: Doses received correlate 0.88 with the mean age of each region. So it looks as if someone has been planning the shipments quite carefully to ensure that the most vulnerable people get vaccinated in the right proportions across the country. I haven't seen any policy documents, but 0.88 would be a heck of a coincidence.

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:15 pm

FFS.

When the rest of Europe was worried that the AZ vaccine hadn't been adequately tested on older people, and countries like France and Germany said they wouldn't give it to people over 65, Spain went one better and promised Pfizer or Moderna to everyone over 55.

A bit later, maybe to be more in line with the neighbours (or perhaps the fact that in some places this meant giving at least a first shot to 45 year olds before 75 year olds), they raised to a maximum age of 65 for AZ.

A week ago, they announced that it was now OK for people of all ages.

This evening, AP is reporting that Spain has announced that because of the ongoing blood clot panic, which as far as I can tell is not much more than the results of a post hoc subgroup analysis, AZ will only be offered to people over 60.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:29 pm

In the week ending 11 April, Spain vaccinated 2,041,303 people. The UK, with a population 45% higher, vaccinated 2,833,032 people, which is 39% more.

That is, for the first time, Spain vaccinated a higher percentage of its residents in a week than the UK did. :shock:

Nationally, we are at 22.87% with at least one dose and 6.59% with two doses. 77% of our delivered vaccines are Pfizer or Moderna.

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by shpalman » Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:45 pm

You can see at Our World in Data that the UK has slowed down while Spain (and Germany) have sped up. France and Italy (for example) less so.
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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:52 pm

2.1 million people vaccinated in the last 7 days. Among major countries, only the goddamn US and A is doing better per head of population at the moment. (To be fair, Israel is now close to the bottom of the table because pretty well everyone who wants the vaccine has had it.)

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by Herainestold » Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:28 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
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2.1 million people vaccinated in the last 7 days. Among major countries, only the goddamn US and A is doing better per head of population at the moment. (To be fair, Israel is now close to the bottom of the table because pretty well everyone who wants the vaccine has had it.)


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I dunno. When I try it I get Uruguay, Chile and Canada ahead of Spain. Maybe they are not major countries.

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Re: Vaccine rollout in Spain

Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:40 pm

Spain rolled out the AstraZeneca vaccine to at least two immigrants today. :D
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