USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by bolo » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:03 pm

Thank god for Mississippi, right?

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Post by monkey » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:13 pm

bolo wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:03 pm
Thank god for Mississippi, right?
I find it strange how often lists end 49 - Alabama, 50 - Mississippi. Surely randomness would give a bit more variation 'cos there's not that much between them. Louisiana and Georgia do sometimes get a look in too though.

I console myself that we're better in the city than outside of it (or at least we would be if The State let us). I am not sure how true this actually is, my view is probably distorted by working at and living near the University/hospital.

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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by Herainestold » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:27 pm

monkey wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:17 pm
Yesterday, Alabama stabbed only 978 people with needles (population ~5 million), though the moving average is higher than that, I'd guess about 2k, can't be bothered to calculate). Currently, 36% have had one dose and 29% all all vaxxed up.

I'm not sure what to do. I'm erring on the whole "f.ck it, I did what I could to keep myself and others safe. I stayed at home, wore a mask and was ill for two days after being stuck, you ruin all that by not bothering, so why should I?" But then I go back to the "keeping others safe" bit and I just get depressed.

Case rate is at the same level as this time last year but decreasing slowly, hospitalisations are decreasing too and there are fewer deaths. Which is good, but we had a wave last summer after things were looking OK for a bit and I'm expecting the same to happen this year (but hoping I'm wrong).

As I said before, we're going to f.ck it all up for the rest of you. But we're still not Mississippi.
Well you did your part. Just wait until the modi delta strain hits Alabama. Keep masking, keep distancing and hope you dont need to go to the hospital.

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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by bolo » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:43 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:27 pm
Just wait until the modi delta strain hits Alabama.
Your insistence on calling it the Modi strain is no different from Trump's insistence on calling it the China virus. Please stop.

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Post by Herainestold » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:10 pm

bolo wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:43 pm
Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:27 pm
Just wait until the modi delta strain hits Alabama.
Your insistence on calling it the Modi strain is no different from Trump's insistence on calling it the China virus. Please stop.
Okay Delta strain.

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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by Herainestold » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pm

bolo wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:43 pm
Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:27 pm
Just wait until the modi delta strain hits Alabama.
Your insistence on calling it the Modi strain is no different from Trump's insistence on calling it the China virus. Please stop.
If India had a government that cared about its people, all of its people, it wouldn't be in this situation.

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Post by JQH » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:32 am

Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pm
bolo wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:43 pm
Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:27 pm
Just wait until the modi delta strain hits Alabama.
Your insistence on calling it the Modi strain is no different from Trump's insistence on calling it the China virus. Please stop.
If India had a government that cared about its people, all of its people, it wouldn't be in this situation.
Likewise China. And the UK.
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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by Herainestold » Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:34 am

JQH wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:32 am
Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pm
bolo wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:43 pm

Your insistence on calling it the Modi strain is no different from Trump's insistence on calling it the China virus. Please stop.
If India had a government that cared about its people, all of its people, it wouldn't be in this situation.
Likewise China. And the UK.
China has no covid. But yes India, UK, America, Brazil, many others. hundreds of thousands dead from covid and fascist governments.

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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by Martin_B » Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:16 am

Herainestold wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:34 am
JQH wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:32 am
Herainestold wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:13 pm


If India had a government that cared about its people, all of its people, it wouldn't be in this situation.
Likewise China. And the UK.
China has no covid. But yes India, UK, America, Brazil, many others. hundreds of thousands dead from covid and fascist governments.
Don't be ridiculous.
a) China still has Covid.
b) There are plenty of countries with left-wing or centrist governments who have handled Covid badly. There are also right-wing governments who have handled it relatively well.
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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by Woodchopper » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:52 am

Martin_B wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:16 am
Herainestold wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:34 am
JQH wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:32 am


Likewise China. And the UK.
China has no covid. But yes India, UK, America, Brazil, many others. hundreds of thousands dead from covid and fascist governments.
Don't be ridiculous.
a) China still has Covid.
b) There are plenty of countries with left-wing or centrist governments who have handled Covid badly. There are also right-wing governments who have handled it relatively well.

It does appear that populist governments are associated with higher mortality: https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/68440

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Re: USA: covid, vaccine rollout, and new levels of idiocy

Post by Millennie Al » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:14 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:52 am
It does appear that populist governments are associated with higher mortality: https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/68440
Success (in anything) is far more likely following correct action. Populist governments are happy to act, but reluctant to face reality and act correctly.
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