A piece of misreporting takes on a life of its own

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A piece of misreporting takes on a life of its own

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Post by bob sterman » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:18 pm

There's an XKCD for that...

https://xkcd.com/978/

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Post by Woodchopper » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:18 pm

That’s a really interesting example of how a conventional wisdom is created from endless repetition of dodgy data.

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Post by Gfamily » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:21 pm

bob sterman wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:18 pm
There's an XKCD for that...

https://xkcd.com/978/
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Re: A piece of misreporting takes on a life of its own

Post by Woodchopper » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:40 pm

bob sterman wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:18 pm
There's an XKCD for that...

https://xkcd.com/978/
There’s a similar process involving:

Anonymous account writes something on Twitter -> gets repeated by celebrities with lots of followers -> dodgy media reports the celeb tweets -> the controversy is reported by established media -> for many becomes a ‘fact’.

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Post by secret squirrel » Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:54 am

The CIA (and others) made, and presumably still make, extensive use of this principle. The idea is to put a completely fabricated story about e.g. communist atrocities* into a local paper in, say, Guatemala, then get it into a national paper, then into the international press, working up the 'reliability' chain till it's in the New York Times as an established fact.

*Some stories of communist atrocities were of course true.

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Re: A piece of misreporting takes on a life of its own

Post by Bird on a Fire » Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:57 am

After the Met shot Jean Charles de Menezes, it was widely reported that he'd jumped the ticket barrier and run from police.

In fact, he'd paid the fare with his Oyster card and was walking normally. A witness had seen a cop jump the barrier, and got confused.

Nevertheless the known falsehood was encouraged to circulate, no doubt because it made Dick et al. look sightly less spectacularly and tragically incompetent, and to this day a lot of people believe it.
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Re: A piece of misreporting takes on a life of its own

Post by bob sterman » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:37 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:57 am
After the Met shot Jean Charles de Menezes, it was widely reported that he'd jumped the ticket barrier and run from police.

In fact, he'd paid the fare with his Oyster card and was walking normally. A witness had seen a cop jump the barrier, and got confused.

Nevertheless the known falsehood was encouraged to circulate, no doubt because it made Dick et al. look sightly less spectacularly and tragically incompetent, and to this day a lot of people believe it.
That falsehood still circulates today! It's infuriating. Along with the nonsense about him wearing a big heavy coat with wires protruding from it - probably another cop with a radio.

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