5G woo
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5G woo
I went on a bit of a rant on Twitter about mobile telecoms cranks, with a specific thought towards some of the 5G crankery I've been exposed to (geddit?) quite a bit lately on Facebook.
From one of the replies, it seems that County Wicklow council in Ireland has banned deployment of 5G in the county. WTF?
Large chunks of human progress sometimes seems to be in danger of getting shut down by cranks worried about sh.t, while an actual health disaster is raging upon us (which those same cranks very often seem to think is overstated, or a conspiracy by the Chinese and Big Pharma, etc etc.)
Do these people actually sincerely believe that 5G (and by extension, vaccines, chemtrails, etc) are being sent to kill us all? Or are they suffering from some strange micro-personality disorder that makes them think that every scientist in the world is wrong and only Karen* from Bromley* is right? Or do they just like attention?
*Other names and locations for cranks are available.
From one of the replies, it seems that County Wicklow council in Ireland has banned deployment of 5G in the county. WTF?
Large chunks of human progress sometimes seems to be in danger of getting shut down by cranks worried about sh.t, while an actual health disaster is raging upon us (which those same cranks very often seem to think is overstated, or a conspiracy by the Chinese and Big Pharma, etc etc.)
Do these people actually sincerely believe that 5G (and by extension, vaccines, chemtrails, etc) are being sent to kill us all? Or are they suffering from some strange micro-personality disorder that makes them think that every scientist in the world is wrong and only Karen* from Bromley* is right? Or do they just like attention?
*Other names and locations for cranks are available.
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On the other hand, OFCOM have just said that broadcasters should not allow 5G myths to be propagated.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:19 pmI went on a bit of a rant on Twitter about mobile telecoms cranks, with a specific thought towards some of the 5G crankery I've been exposed to (geddit?) quite a bit lately on Facebook.
From one of the replies, it seems that County Wicklow council in Ireland has banned deployment of 5G in the county. WTF?
Large chunks of human progress sometimes seems to be in danger of getting shut down by cranks worried about sh.t, while an actual health disaster is raging upon us (which those same cranks very often seem to think is overstated, or a conspiracy by the Chinese and Big Pharma, etc etc.)
Do these people actually sincerely believe that 5G (and by extension, vaccines, chemtrails, etc) are being sent to kill us all? Or are they suffering from some strange micro-personality disorder that makes them think that every scientist in the world is wrong and only Karen* from Bromley* is right? Or do they just like attention?
*Other names and locations for cranks are available.
Oh no, it's only "5G caused coronavirus" myths that are banned.
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Great Twitter thread!
Regarding your association with the CEN, an old friend of mine (initials M-JC) was a sub-editor on that paper for many years until all the subs were sacked. You may have come across her.
Regarding your association with the CEN, an old friend of mine (initials M-JC) was a sub-editor on that paper for many years until all the subs were sacked. You may have come across her.
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It's gone, if not viral, then completely nuts by my standards. People are retweeting it with "Best 5G thread evah!", etc. If I'd known, I would have crafted it with a bit more care. As it was I tossed it off in two minutes. (The engineer's anecdote is exactly as it was told to me. give or take entropy since I heard it; notably the bit about the school roof being the best place to reduce radiation levels for the kids, not that it matters anyway once you're more than 20cm from the transmitter.)
It was about 1980, for about six weeks. I was young and I needed the money.
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I’m sure she was working there by then. She also used to write the occasional concert review.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:01 amIt's gone, if not viral, then completely nuts by my standards. People are retweeting it with "Best 5G thread evah!", etc. If I'd known, I would have crafted it with a bit more care. As it was I tossed it off in two minutes. (The engineer's anecdote is exactly as it was told to me. give or take entropy since I heard it; notably the bit about the school roof being the best place to reduce radiation levels for the kids, not that it matters anyway once you're more than 20cm from the transmitter.)
It was about 1980, for about six weeks. I was young and I needed the money.
One consequence of the mass sackings was front page headlines like this: “100PT SPLASH HEADING HERE” .
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... nspiracies
Can't we just cut the internet off from these idiots?
Can't we just cut the internet off from these idiots?
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Here's my favourite, although I suspect Poe's Law applies...
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Peak Dunning-Kruger:
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I'm seeing this sh.t on my FB timeline. I don't know whether to counter their nonsense for the benefit of other readers or just unfriend them on the grounds that life's too short to waste arguing with stupid people.
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Needed to press edit not quote.
And remember that if you botch the exit, the carnival of reaction may be coming to a town near you.
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Tempting to unfriend but maybe consider a reworking of what I said in the Corona Woo thread:
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Sounds like a plan. May well do that.
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Scientific American on 5G health risks including criticism of the current exposure limits for RFR. #notallwoo
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
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Does anyone have a mechanism for how non-ionising can damage DNA without heating? As that is one of the effects they discussed. Or even if the effect is actually there?plodder wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:08 amScientific American on 5G health risks including criticism of the current exposure limits for RFR. #notallwoo
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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Moskowitz has for the last decade played the brave maverick scientist claiming mobile phones cause cancer and moved from that to all RF radiation is dangerous. This is a blog on Scientific American and represents Moskowitz's fringe ideas.plodder wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:08 amScientific American on 5G health risks including criticism of the current exposure limits for RFR. #notallwoo
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
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Since I've been exposing myself to radiation at 10 times the power level and up to 300 times the photon energies that cellphones put out for 20 years, I think we can ignore that as complete and utter b.llsh.t.Chris Preston wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:45 amMoskowitz has for the last decade played the brave maverick scientist claiming mobile phones cause cancer and moved from that to all RF radiation is dangerous. This is a blog on Scientific American and represents Moskowitz's fringe ideas.plodder wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:08 amScientific American on 5G health risks including criticism of the current exposure limits for RFR. #notallwoo
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
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They usually start making up stuff about how it's the pulse pattern or something, at that point.dyqik wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:24 pmSince I've been exposing myself to radiation at 10 times the power level and up to 300 times the photon energies that cellphones put out for 20 years, I think we can ignore that as complete and utter b.llsh.t.Chris Preston wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:45 amMoskowitz has for the last decade played the brave maverick scientist claiming mobile phones cause cancer and moved from that to all RF radiation is dangerous. This is a blog on Scientific American and represents Moskowitz's fringe ideas.plodder wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:08 amScientific American on 5G health risks including criticism of the current exposure limits for RFR. #notallwoo
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Did she experience Belfast the way it was in the 1970’s?
where once I used to scintillate
now I sin till ten past three
now I sin till ten past three
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She didn't even experience a 5G free Belfast in 2019.
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Ah, as I suspected:jimbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:32 amDoes anyone have a mechanism for how non-ionising can damage DNA without heating? As that is one of the effects they discussed. Or even if the effect is actually there?plodder wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:08 amScientific American on 5G health risks including criticism of the current exposure limits for RFR. #notallwoo
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... g-is-safe/
shpalman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 pmThey usually start making up stuff about how it's the pulse pattern or something, at that point.dyqik wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:24 pmSince I've been exposing myself to radiation at 10 times the power level and up to 300 times the photon energies that cellphones put out for 20 years, I think we can ignore that as complete and utter b.llsh.t.Chris Preston wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:45 amMoskowitz has for the last decade played the brave maverick scientist claiming mobile phones cause cancer and moved from that to all RF radiation is dangerous. This is a blog on Scientific American and represents Moskowitz's fringe ideas.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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Which is pure "mind control ray" b.llsh.t.shpalman wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 pmThey usually start making up stuff about how it's the pulse pattern or something, at that point.dyqik wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:24 pmSince I've been exposing myself to radiation at 10 times the power level and up to 300 times the photon energies that cellphones put out for 20 years, I think we can ignore that as complete and utter b.llsh.t.Chris Preston wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:45 am
Moskowitz has for the last decade played the brave maverick scientist claiming mobile phones cause cancer and moved from that to all RF radiation is dangerous. This is a blog on Scientific American and represents Moskowitz's fringe ideas.
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Looks like it's true. A massive conspiracy to deliver New World Order via 5G masts, undertaken with the upmost secrecy.
How do we know? Because of the new £20 note. It has 5G mast on it. Clear as day, a 5G mast. With radioactive waves. On the £20 note.
What more proof do you need? The conspirators obviously put it on the £20 note to signal there's a top secret 5G plot to... er... to secretly... hang on... wait, how does revealing it fit with the top secret bit again?
How do we know? Because of the new £20 note. It has 5G mast on it. Clear as day, a 5G mast. With radioactive waves. On the £20 note.
What more proof do you need? The conspirators obviously put it on the £20 note to signal there's a top secret 5G plot to... er... to secretly... hang on... wait, how does revealing it fit with the top secret bit again?
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