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Post by shpalman » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:20 pm

So it turns out that Djokovic has an 80% stake in QuantBioRes...
At QuantBioRes, we work in utilizing unique and novel Resonant Recognition Model (RRM).

The RRM is a biophysical model based on findings that certain periodicities/frequencies within the distribution of energies of free electrons along the protein are critical for protein biological function and interaction with protein receptors and other targets.

The RRM technology enables these characteristic frequencies, which are electromagnetic in nature, to be identified for each biological function/interaction. Once the characteristic frequency for biological function is identified, it is possible to analyze protein biological function/interaction, predict bioactive mutations and design de novo bioactive peptides with desired biological function, as well as to predict the electromagnetic frequency which can interfere with certain protein activity.

​These predictions can be used for design of treatments for viral diseases and resistant bacteria.
Going to leave the vaccine fuckery thread for vaccine fuckery so that we can discuss whatever fuckery this is in here.
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by shpalman » Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:47 pm

There's a pdf.
Introduction: With the latest outbreak of corona virus COVID-19 and with a number of previous retro (RNA) virus’ outbreaks like HIV, SARS and a new coronavirus associated with human respiratory disease in China...
That was a mistake I made in the beginning too, assuming that all RNA-based viruses were retroviruses, which they aren't, but then I'm a moron who isn't trying to develop treatments against it, unlike these guys, who are just morons.
During this rapid research effort, we will identify the common component of proteins responsible for initial infection for all related RNA viruses and then design a vaccine based on this component and thus create the cure
Well, for retroviruses, it's the reverse-transcriptase enzyme, but that won't help you against SARS-CoV-2.
Strategy: In the case of corona viruses spike glycoprotein, which is first to attach to host cell membrane, initiating the infection, is the most relevant target for design of vaccine. To be able to design a universal vaccine for all corona viruses, we will identify a common characteristic parameter for spike proteins from different strains and then use this parameter for vaccine design.
I bet none of the vaccine designers thought of that! And I thought this wasn't supposed to be a vaccine...
For that purpose, we will utilize the Resonant Recognition Model (RRM), which proposes that protein biological function is characterized by certain periodicities (frequencies) within distribution of free electron energies along protein. The RRM is capable of identifying common characteristics for proteins having the same biological function/interaction, but not necessarily having high level of homology. We have previously successfully utilized the RRM model in analysis of HIV virus, where we have identified common RRM characteristic for all different and very variable strains of HIV virus. Based on this characteristic we have designed and experimentally tested peptides that will be used in universal vaccine for all HIV strains.
Of course there's no evidence here of any such experimental tests, let alone that they gave any results.
QUANTBIORES STARTS TESTING DEACTIVATION MECHANISM FOR COVID19 IN JULY 2020
... but the "Learn more" link doesn't seem to actually be a link to anything... so no evidence there of any tests either.

This is b.llsh.t. Novax is going to lose a bunch of money, the f.cker.
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by shpalman » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:11 pm

Review of studies on modulating enzyme activity by low intensity electromagnetic radiation

Vuk Vojisavljevic, Elena Pirogova, Irena Cosic
https://doi.org/10.1109/iembs.2010.5626786

This last author is the person in charge of QuantBioRes.

She wrote the book on the Resonant Recognition Model of Macromolecular Bioactivity. Obviously.

I don't think anyone else takes it seriously enough to debunk it let alone work with it.
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by monkey » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:13 pm

shpalman wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:20 pm
So it turns out that Djokovic has an 80% stake in QuantBioRes...
At QuantBioRes, we work in utilizing unique and novel Resonant Recognition Model (RRM).

The RRM is a biophysical model based on findings that certain periodicities/frequencies within the distribution of energies of free electrons along the protein are critical for protein biological function and interaction with protein receptors and other targets.

The RRM technology enables these characteristic frequencies, which are electromagnetic in nature, to be identified for each biological function/interaction. Once the characteristic frequency for biological function is identified, it is possible to analyze protein biological function/interaction, predict bioactive mutations and design de novo bioactive peptides with desired biological function, as well as to predict the electromagnetic frequency which can interfere with certain protein activity.

​These predictions can be used for design of treatments for viral diseases and resistant bacteria.
Going to leave the vaccine fuckery thread for vaccine fuckery so that we can discuss whatever fuckery this is in here.
Did you hover over the pictures on the website? A description of the picture pops up, things like "Scientist", "Microscope" and "Test tubes". Very informative.

I decided to give a Google Scholar search for "Resonant Recognition Model" to see if it was just a really bad description of something real. It didn't clear things up for me. It seems that there quite few papers/conference proccedings out there, but looking at the abstracts didn't help me work out what they were trying to say, best I can do is that it seems they think they can identify the important amino acids in a protein chain, but I'm not certain on how they think they are doing this. Nearly all seem to have Either Irena Cosic, Drasko Cosic, or both as Authors, so I imagine they are the people behind it. Irena Cosic is an Emiritus professor at Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (but recent papers don't have her affiliated there), and Drasko is nothing of significance, as far as I can tell. They have a website for a consulting company that also doesn't help much that you can find here: clicky.

ETA: Shalpman posted them last two posts while I was writing this one.

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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by shpalman » Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:18 pm

monkey wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:13 pm
Did you hover over the pictures on the website? A description of the picture pops up, things like "Scientist", "Microscope" and "Test tubes". Very informative.
Haha yeah.
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by shpalman » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:52 pm

the Guardian have noticed

Didn't Novax youmustbeDJokingovic say some wibble like
“I believe that it is our mission to reach a higher frequency through self-care by exploring and respecting our own avatar, our body and, by doing that, raising the vibration of the planet”
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Post by Herainestold » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:18 pm

Will they accept crypto as an investment?
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Post by Opti » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:24 pm

shpalman wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:52 pm
the Guardian have noticed

Didn't Novax youmustbeDJokingovic say some wibble like
“I believe that it is our mission to reach a higher frequency through self-care by exploring and respecting our own avatar, our body and, by doing that, raising the vibration of the planet”
Nice quote by the CEO. He said "other pioneers in engineering or science, such as Elon Musk and Galileo, had faced similar criticism when first airing their views".

:D
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by jimbob » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:43 pm

The thing is, I mightn't be able to assess real papers in biology or other sciences, but can at least have an idea of what they are claiming.

This sounds worse than Star Trek technobabble.
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Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:31 pm

Opti wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:24 pm
shpalman wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:52 pm
the Guardian have noticed

Didn't Novax youmustbeDJokingovic say some wibble like
“I believe that it is our mission to reach a higher frequency through self-care by exploring and respecting our own avatar, our body and, by doing that, raising the vibration of the planet”
Nice quote by the CEO. He said "other pioneers in engineering or science, such as Elon Musk and Galileo, had faced similar criticism when first airing their views".

:D
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by Opti » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:39 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:31 pm

...


"They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." — Carl Sagan
... is exactly what I was thinking. ;)
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Post by wilsontown » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:39 pm

That "they laughed at Galileo" gambit is just about the oldest ploy in pseudoscience.
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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by Sciolus » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:44 pm

"They laughed at Galileo, they laughed at Edison's light bulb, they even laughed at nitrous oxide." -- John Sladek.

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Post by Millennie Al » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:17 am

shpalman wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:47 pm
There's a pdf.
To be able to design a universal vaccine for all corona viruses, we will identify a common characteristic parameter for spike proteins from different strains and then use this parameter for vaccine design.
I bet none of the vaccine designers thought of that! And I thought this wasn't supposed to be a vaccine...
There's an interesting article which covers some of the research at https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/15/heal ... ccine.html - the part about spikes is headed "Wobbly Spikes".

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Post by dyqik » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:31 am

sTeamTraen wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:31 pm
Opti wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:24 pm
shpalman wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:52 pm
the Guardian have noticed

Didn't Novax youmustbeDJokingovic say some wibble like

Nice quote by the CEO. He said "other pioneers in engineering or science, such as Elon Musk and Galileo, had faced similar criticism when first airing their views".

:D
"They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." — Carl Sagan
Thing is, they didn't laugh at Columbus, they gave him money, three boats, and the right to profit off of whatever he discovered.

And I don't think "laughing" is a description of what they did to Galileo.

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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by Sciolus » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:58 am

dyqik wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:31 am
Thing is, they didn't laugh at Columbus, they gave him money, three boats, and the right to profit off of whatever he discovered.
Even though Columbus was completely wrong and everyone who wasn't an idiot knew he was completely wrong and only an idiot would give him money to pursue his idiocy. Ooh, suddenly Columbus is starting sound the same as Quantbiores. Except Columbus happened to get massively lucky that there happened to be this other great big lump of gold in the way. Doubt that will happen to Q.

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Re: QuantBioRes

Post by shpalman » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:19 am

Quantum Foundations of Resonant Recognition Model somehow got published. I suppose the idea is to b.llsh.t the physics to the biologists and b.llsh.t the biology to the physicists.
All proteins can be considered as a linear sequence of their constitutive elements, i.e. amino acids.
Well, they're a chain of amino acids, but it's not really in a straight line anymore.
The RRM model interprets this linear information using signal analysis methods by transforming protein into a numerical series and then into the frequency domain using the Fourier Transform (FFT) [1, 5]. The RRM is based on the representation of the protein primary structure as a numerical series by assigning to each amino acid a physical parameter value relevant to the protein’s biological activity. Although a number of amino acid indices have been found to correlate in some ways with the biological activity of the whole protein, our investigations [6, 7] have shown that the best correlation can be achieved with parameters which are related to the energy of delocalised electrons of each amino acid. These findings can be explained by the fact that the electrons delocalised, from the particular amino acid, have the strongest impact on the electronic distribution of the whole protein. In our extended studies, the energy of the delocalised electrons (calculated as the electron-ion interaction pseudopotential (EIIP) [1, 5–7]) of each amino acid residue was used. The resulting numerical series then represents the distribution of the free electrons energies along the protein.
Thing is that a chain of amino acids doesn't have the alternating single-bond double-bond structure - the conjugated chain - which gives you the delocalized states (which makes a lot of biological molecules colourful). And if you did have delocalized electronic states along a protein chain, for sure their energies would be influenced by having other bits of the protein folded nearby. And even if you solved for this, it doesn't mean you could achieve anything with that information.
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Post by Bird on a Fire » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:45 pm

dyqik wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:31 am
sTeamTraen wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:31 pm
Opti wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:24 pm


Nice quote by the CEO. He said "other pioneers in engineering or science, such as Elon Musk and Galileo, had faced similar criticism when first airing their views".

:D
"They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." — Carl Sagan
Thing is, they didn't laugh at Columbus, they gave him money, three boats, and the right to profit off of whatever he discovered.

And I don't think "laughing" is a description of what they did to Galileo.
Well, the Portuguese laughed at Columbus and told him to f.ck off. They'd already rounded the horn to Africa (and probably done some espionage on Arab/Venetian merchant's charts) and knew that his calculations for the circumference of the world were wayyyyyyyy out.

The stooopid Spanish, on the other hand… ;)

As for Galileo, I often find myself laughing after I set things on fire. Was Galileo, perchance, a zoot?
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