Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
- El Pollo Diablo
- Stummy Beige
- Posts: 3323
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:41 pm
- Location: FBPE
Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
If truth is many-sided, mendacity is many-tongued
-
- Dorkwood
- Posts: 1508
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:22 pm
- rockdoctor
- Clardic Fug
- Posts: 204
- Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:52 am
- Location: Paddington, London
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Reminds me of the Bristol Stool Chart
- science_fox
- Snowbonk
- Posts: 512
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:34 pm
- Location: Manchester
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
How much of that is variation within the variety though (eg how big are the error bars of shape and colour)?
Tis fun though - I like the stripey ones (are they stripey coloured inside like carrots and beetroots??) but the lumpy ones would be impossible to peal.
Tis fun though - I like the stripey ones (are they stripey coloured inside like carrots and beetroots??) but the lumpy ones would be impossible to peal.
I'm not afraid of catching Covid, I'm afraid of catching idiot.
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
I tasted a few when on holiday in Peru, very nice.
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
One of the Radio4/World service science programmes had a podcast on that recently. I can't find it, but they talked to a Peruvian market seller who had a ridiculous number of varieties, although he said his wife knew far more.science_fox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:44 pmHow much of that is variation within the variety though (eg how big are the error bars of shape and colour)?
Tis fun though - I like the stripey ones (are they stripey coloured inside like carrots and beetroots??) but the lumpy ones would be impossible to peal.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
- Bird on a Fire
- Princess POW
- Posts: 10137
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm
- Location: Portugal
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
I can't speak directly to the photo in the thread, but the museum has 1,367 varieties of potato in it.science_fox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:44 pmHow much of that is variation within the variety though (eg how big are the error bars of shape and colour)?
Certainly when I was in the Andean regions of Ecuador and Colombia I noticed in restaurants that different recipes would have different kind of potatoes, all referred to by different names on the menus.
But this seemed more prominent in rural areas than in Quito and Bogotá - I suspect that urbanised generations will quickly lose the ability to distinguish between types of potatoes and will soon all be buying a very small number of varieties selected for whichever traits make them most profitable for supermarkets.
science_fox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:44 pmTis fun though - I like the stripey ones (are they stripey coloured inside like carrots and beetroots??) but the lumpy ones would be impossible to peal.
The article wrote:There is even a maddeningly knobbly potato known as pusi qhachun wachachi, whose name literally means “make your daughter-in-law cry”, as it has frustrated so many prospective wives who have tried to pass the test of trying to peel it.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.
- discovolante
- Stummy Beige
- Posts: 4084
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:10 pm
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Yeah I already want to go to South America thanks, without the added temptation of being able to eat a zillion different types of potato.
To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave.
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
A propos of nothing much at all...
"Solanum, thanks for all the chips"
"Solanum, thanks for all the chips"
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
- Pucksoppet
- Snowbonk
- Posts: 599
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:13 pm
- Location: Girdling the Earth
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
science_fox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:44 pmTis fun though - I like the stripey ones (are they stripey coloured inside like carrots and beetroots??) but the lumpy ones would be impossible to peal.
Surely the answer is not to peel it? I understand the part of the potato with most vitamins etc in it is just under the skin, so the answer is to boil it an eat with skin on (or roast it), or slice it and make a tortilla de patatas with the skin included (sacrilege, maybe, but it works).The article wrote:There is even a maddeningly knobbly potato known as pusi qhachun wachachi, whose name literally means “make your daughter-in-law cry”, as it has frustrated so many prospective wives who have tried to pass the test of trying to peel it.
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
While not as diverse (I suspect) as the Peruvian potatoes, there are a lot of varieties local to the UK. And you can get up close and personal with them at one of the Potato Days going on next year. I've not been before but I know Pennards Plants who are one of the organisers and they are a great nursery so they might be worth checking out. I'm going to try and get to the one in Bristol.
it's okay to say "I don't know"
- discovolante
- Stummy Beige
- Posts: 4084
- Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:10 pm
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
That looks great. Nothing near me sadly but if I ever get a garden I want to try growing varieties of veg you can't easily get in the shops.Fishnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:21 pmWhile not as diverse (I suspect) as the Peruvian potatoes, there are a lot of varieties local to the UK. And you can get up close and personal with them at one of the Potato Days going on next year. I've not been before but I know Pennards Plants who are one of the organisers and they are a great nursery so they might be worth checking out. I'm going to try and get to the one in Bristol.
Much respect for potatoes.
To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave.
-
- Dorkwood
- Posts: 1508
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:22 pm
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Definitely going to the Bristol one - thanks Fishnut!Fishnut wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:21 pmWhile not as diverse (I suspect) as the Peruvian potatoes, there are a lot of varieties local to the UK. And you can get up close and personal with them at one of the Potato Days going on next year. I've not been before but I know Pennards Plants who are one of the organisers and they are a great nursery so they might be worth checking out. I'm going to try and get to the one in Bristol.
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Just a reminder that the Bristol Seed Fair and Potato Day at Windmill Hill City Farm is this Sunday, 10am to 1pm. I'll be going. Anyone who wants to meet up can either DM me or keep an eye out for the crazy lady getting excited about Shetland Blue potatoes (they bl..dy well better have some!).
it's okay to say "I don't know"
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
I went to the potato day and it was excellent. I couldn't get any photos because of the crowds but I did get five different potatoes,
- Red Emmalie
- Pink gypsy
- Mayan rose
- Yukon gold
- Salad blue (what I had been previously told was called Shetland blue)
I'm particularly pleased at getting the last ones as they're so pretty. I had some a few years ago, and have been desperate to get some more:
I also got some New Zealand yams (actually from Peru). They seem to be a fairly new import to the UK so it'll be interesting to try them.
There are still lots of potato days to go. They're mostly around the south and south-west but and I highly recommend going if you're after rarer varieties. They were selling them at 25p/tuber so you can just get a few (I got 4 of each variety) rather than having to get a whole sack. There were also lots of seeds from Pennards, as well as onion and shallot sets, rhubarb, fruit bushes and trees, and various other plants.
- Red Emmalie
- Pink gypsy
- Mayan rose
- Yukon gold
- Salad blue (what I had been previously told was called Shetland blue)
I'm particularly pleased at getting the last ones as they're so pretty. I had some a few years ago, and have been desperate to get some more:
I also got some New Zealand yams (actually from Peru). They seem to be a fairly new import to the UK so it'll be interesting to try them.
There are still lots of potato days to go. They're mostly around the south and south-west but and I highly recommend going if you're after rarer varieties. They were selling them at 25p/tuber so you can just get a few (I got 4 of each variety) rather than having to get a whole sack. There were also lots of seeds from Pennards, as well as onion and shallot sets, rhubarb, fruit bushes and trees, and various other plants.
it's okay to say "I don't know"
- El Pollo Diablo
- Stummy Beige
- Posts: 3323
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:41 pm
- Location: FBPE
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Were they seed potatoes? If you manage to grow any I'd be interested to nab some off you this year!
If truth is many-sided, mendacity is many-tongued
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
They are all seed potatoes and I'll definitely be keeping a few back if they're successful. Happy to share the wealth
it's okay to say "I don't know"
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Slightly off topic, but I thought this was a really moving story on the BBC Radio4 food programme:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007b4c
The Search for Esiah's Seeds
The Food Programme
Dan Saladino tells the story Esiah Levy who shared seeds and changed lives.
It all started with a squash. Soon after he started to grow his own food he cut open a particularly delicious variety and discovered hundreds of seeds inside. He felt compelled to share them with people so they could enjoy the same experience. So began a mission to encourage anyone who would listen, where ever they lived, whatever their background, to grow their own food.
In his spare time and using allotments and his mother’s garden he grew food, built a seed bank and sent seeds around the world through . He created a project called SeedShare to distribute the varieties he selected, from corn to pumpkins, tomatoes to beans to fellow gardeners around the world, He also made friends with other seed savers including Vivien Sansour, a Palestinian woman who had created a seed library to save disappearing crops on the West Bank.
When Esiah Levy passed away suddenly and tragically young at the beginning of this year, Vivien set out to find out what had happened to the seeds he had shared and who had planted them.
Produced and presented by Dan Saladino.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Thanks, I'll give it a listenjimbob wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:04 pmSlightly off topic, but I thought this was a really moving story on the BBC Radio4 food programme:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007b4c
The Search for Esiah's Seeds
The Food Programme
Dan Saladino tells the story Esiah Levy who shared seeds and changed lives.
It all started with a squash. Soon after he started to grow his own food he cut open a particularly delicious variety and discovered hundreds of seeds inside. He felt compelled to share them with people so they could enjoy the same experience. So began a mission to encourage anyone who would listen, where ever they lived, whatever their background, to grow their own food.
In his spare time and using allotments and his mother’s garden he grew food, built a seed bank and sent seeds around the world through . He created a project called SeedShare to distribute the varieties he selected, from corn to pumpkins, tomatoes to beans to fellow gardeners around the world, He also made friends with other seed savers including Vivien Sansour, a Palestinian woman who had created a seed library to save disappearing crops on the West Bank.
When Esiah Levy passed away suddenly and tragically young at the beginning of this year, Vivien set out to find out what had happened to the seeds he had shared and who had planted them.
Produced and presented by Dan Saladino.
There's a grower in the UK who provides heritage beans that are explicitly for cultivating yourself and sharing - you'll only get one packet, ever - but they've got some really interesting stuff.
it's okay to say "I don't know"
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
For anyone in south Manchester Hulme Community Garden Centre do a potato day which I think is usually late Feb or early March, but search the website or get in touch with them to check.
We did salad blues one year, they look cool but didn’t taste great.
Also if you grow potatoes you need to sign up for Blightwatch.
We did salad blues one year, they look cool but didn’t taste great.
Also if you grow potatoes you need to sign up for Blightwatch.
Move-a… side, and let the mango through… let the mango through
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
If you scroll right to the bottom there are quite a few further north, just the owners of that site don’t attend.
North west ones are here: http://www.brighterblooms.co.uk/events-2/
where once I used to scintillate
now I sin till ten past three
now I sin till ten past three
- Rich Scopie
- Snowbonk
- Posts: 536
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:21 pm
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
I'm hoping to go to this one, if anyone fancies a pint on the day:
Cambridgeshire Self Sufficiency Group Potato Day
All Saints Church
Market Square, Huntingdon PE29 3NR
Saturday 1st February 2020 - 10.30am - 1.00pm
50 + varieties of seed potatoes + onion sets and shallots.
Refreshments, crafts and other stalls.
FREE ADMISSION
Cambridgeshire Self Sufficiency Group Potato Day
All Saints Church
Market Square, Huntingdon PE29 3NR
Saturday 1st February 2020 - 10.30am - 1.00pm
50 + varieties of seed potatoes + onion sets and shallots.
Refreshments, crafts and other stalls.
FREE ADMISSION
It first was a rumour dismissed as a lie, but then came the evidence none could deny:
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!
- Rich Scopie
- Snowbonk
- Posts: 536
- Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:21 pm
Re: Peru's Panoply of Preserved Potatoes
Double post. Sorry.
It first was a rumour dismissed as a lie, but then came the evidence none could deny:
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!