
T's instead of error bars
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T's instead of error bars
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Re: T's instead of error bars
Thank you. I think I have never seen something that comes quite so blatantly and obviously into the category of cargo cult science. I remember first coming across the term on this forum, and having to think carefully about what it might mean. For all my interest in pseudoscience, I had never seen that term before, and presumed the poster must have made it up. I was very impressed when I realised what a nice distinction it was. But it was apparently first used by Richard Feynmann, and deserves to be better known.
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I wanted to do a joke about a t-test, but I read the article and it had already been done.
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Re: T's instead of error bars
Thoroughly depressing.
Using a bar chart to plot a distribution of data is f.cking stupid. Plot the actual data, or at least a violin or box plot or something.
Using a bar chart to plot a distribution of data is f.cking stupid. Plot the actual data, or at least a violin or box plot or something.
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Violin plots are best, because they display the actual distribution, and inevitably look a bit Georgia O'Keeffe.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:28 pmThoroughly depressing.
Using a bar chart to plot a distribution of data is f.cking stupid. Plot the actual data, or at least a violin or box plot or something.
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Might start calling them O'Keeffe plots
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Move-a… side, and let the mango through… let the mango through
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I tend to prefer normalised probability plots, but yes.dyqik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:01 amViolin plots are best, because they display the actual distribution, and inevitably look a bit Georgia O'Keeffe.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:28 pmThoroughly depressing.
Using a bar chart to plot a distribution of data is f.cking stupid. Plot the actual data, or at least a violin or box plot or something.
I have converted about half my colleagues to those.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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Re: T's instead of error bars
There is an R package for everything, now including correctly fitting Ts as error bars, via the wonderfully named geom_terrorbar() function:
https://mival.netlify.app/blog/2023/01/ ... terrorbar/
https://mival.netlify.app/blog/2023/01/ ... terrorbar/
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