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Allo V Psycho
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Electrosensitivity ads

Post by Allo V Psycho » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:26 pm

An ad in the gents at Killington Lake service station southbound on the M6 stated

"Health effects can include Reduced fertility, depression, disturbed sleep and headaches, as well as electrosensitivity and cancer, according to hundreds of peer-reviewed studies on the ESUK website" (www.es-uk.info, deliberately not linked)

This suggests that there are hundreds of peer reviewed studies showing EMR causes cancer, which is not true in the research, nor indeed on their website. Reported to the ASA, although I note that they are not selling something, but they do solicit donations: I don't know if this falls in the ASA remit. If anyone had time to analyse the papers they do list, an the journals they post them in, that would be a nice project:

Sorry the picture is blurred - it wasn't the best place to take snaps....
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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by Chris Preston » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:39 pm

They have a 146 page list of over 2000 references. Analysing it usefully would take too long as it is just a grab bag of anything ever published anywhere (not limited to scientific journals, but includes powerpoint presentations and self-published documents) the mentions electro-magnetic radiation and similar search words.

Towards the end there is a list of "Mechanisms, pathways and other effects of low-level EM exposure". Within that list, I kid you not there is a collection of papers on the effects of electromagnetic radiation on:

(112) Meridians, acupuncture points, endogenous fields

You always know you don't have to deal with lists of papers when people include effects on imaginary processes and things.
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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by murmur » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:28 am

ET tell self to read posts fully before replying - it's too sodding early and I haven't had any coffee yet.
It's so much more attractive inside the moral kiosk

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by Allo V Psycho » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:16 pm

Nice reply from ASA saying they have parked my complaint because they couldn't read the wording on my photograph (fair enough).
They also say they have addressed ads from this organisation before.
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/electros ... 29264.html
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/electros ... 88045.html

So if anybody is in a motorway loo, and could photograph the current ad in a sharper manner, and either post it here or DM me, that would be great...

I seem to be the only person to have complained so far, so it won't progress if I can't take it forward but I won't be on a motorway for a little while.

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by sTeamTraen » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:15 pm

Allo V Psycho wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:16 pm
They also say they have addressed ads from this organisation before.
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/electros ... 29264.html
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/electros ... 88045.html
Can the ASA do anything if an organisation keeps producing misleading adverts? Say, one a day until the ASA runs out of time or money? Can they escalate to the office of FFS or something?

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by jdc » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:24 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:15 pm
Allo V Psycho wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:16 pm
They also say they have addressed ads from this organisation before.
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/electros ... 29264.html
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/electros ... 88045.html
Can the ASA do anything if an organisation keeps producing misleading adverts? Say, one a day until the ASA runs out of time or money? Can they escalate to the office of FFS or something?
They can refer cases to TS. https://www.asa.org.uk/news/asa-steps-u ... g23oPlViko
Electronic Healing and Fahrenheit60 Ltd have been referred to Trading Standards, the ASA’s legal backstop, for persistent misleading advertising health claims in breach of the Advertising Code. Unproven health claims to treat medical conditions can discourage potentially vulnerable people from seeking professional advice for those conditions.

Since 2013, responsibility for our backstop power lies with the National Trading Standards Board (NTSB) who work with the London Borough of Camden to undertake any necessary enforcement work. Camden Trading Standards has accepted the referrals and is now investigating both companies’ advertising.
Where an advertiser is unwilling or unable to stick to the rules and continues to mislead consumers or business the ASA can refer to Trading Standards who will consider statutory action, including warnings and seeking criminal prosecutions or civil enforcement orders.

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by Nero » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:40 am

A really sh.tty bit of reportage from the BBC, absolutely zero critical analysis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-5 ... ened-to-me

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by cvb » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:39 am

Nero wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:40 am
A really sh.tty bit of reportage from the BBC, absolutely zero critical analysis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-5 ... ened-to-me
In the sidebar there is this.
Years of well-controlled, double-blind studies have found no evidence that electromagnetic fields cause these symptoms.

The World Health Organisation says electrosensitivity is not a medical diagnosis, and both the WHO and Public Health England say there’s no scientific basis that these symptoms are linked to electromagnetic field exposure.

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by Rich Scopie » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:55 am

cvb wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:39 am
Nero wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:40 am
A really sh.tty bit of reportage from the BBC, absolutely zero critical analysis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-5 ... ened-to-me
In the sidebar there is this.
Years of well-controlled, double-blind studies have found no evidence that electromagnetic fields cause these symptoms.

The World Health Organisation says electrosensitivity is not a medical diagnosis, and both the WHO and Public Health England say there’s no scientific basis that these symptoms are linked to electromagnetic field exposure.
And a link to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48616174
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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by murmur » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:00 pm

Which kinda makes me wonder why they ran that story anyway...
It's so much more attractive inside the moral kiosk

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Re: Electrosensitivity ads

Post by cvb » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:47 pm

murmur wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:00 pm
Which kinda makes me wonder why they ran that story anyway...
Seems like they just don't care or don't understand.

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