Michael Mosley's diets
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Michael Mosley's diets
This is a thorough and scientific take down of Michael Mosley's 800 cal a day and fasting diets.
I've always thought instinctively that his diets were unhealthy/unscientific/money makers so it's gratifying to be proved right by someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
https://abbylangernutrition.com/fast-80 ... ies-a-day/
Tldr: he talks out of his arse
Edited because I spelled his name wrongly
I've always thought instinctively that his diets were unhealthy/unscientific/money makers so it's gratifying to be proved right by someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
https://abbylangernutrition.com/fast-80 ... ies-a-day/
Tldr: he talks out of his arse
Edited because I spelled his name wrongly
Re: Michael Mosley's diets
That's a worthless review.
The writer says "I did not do the diet, because it would be super triggering to me." Its pretty clear she knew the answer she wanted and set out to get there.
She disliked the advice about cutting out snacking. She blurred 5-2 with a three weeks on 800 calories. She pointed out the obvious about people with eating disorders.
The stuff about curing diabetes is bollocks, though.
Many people have lost weight thanks to Mosley. That it won't work or is problematic for many others is not a sufficient criticism.
The writer says "I did not do the diet, because it would be super triggering to me." Its pretty clear she knew the answer she wanted and set out to get there.
She disliked the advice about cutting out snacking. She blurred 5-2 with a three weeks on 800 calories. She pointed out the obvious about people with eating disorders.
The stuff about curing diabetes is bollocks, though.
Many people have lost weight thanks to Mosley. That it won't work or is problematic for many others is not a sufficient criticism.
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
The same Michael Mosley who claimed on a BBC show that doing high intensity cardio for 3 minutes a week will make you fit?
Quack, quack.
Quack, quack.
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
I tried reading the takedown. But that website was really difficult to read.
Epic bad web design made me nostalgic for the 1990s.
Epic bad web design made me nostalgic for the 1990s.
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
As often the case, if the headline ends with a ? The answer is NO.headshot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:41 amThe same Michael Mosley who claimed on a BBC show that doing high intensity cardio for 3 minutes a week will make you fit?
Quack, quack.
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
Whether she did the diet or not is irrelevant. If she had it would only be n=1 anyway.lpm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:25 amThat's a worthless review.
The writer says "I did not do the diet, because it would be super triggering to me." Its pretty clear she knew the answer she wanted and set out to get there.
She disliked the advice about cutting out snacking. She blurred 5-2 with a three weeks on 800 calories. She pointed out the obvious about people with eating disorders.
The stuff about curing diabetes is bollocks, though.
Many people have lost weight thanks to Mosley. That it won't work or is problematic for many others is not a sufficient criticism.
She doesn't deny that his diets will lead to weightloss short term, she's looking at whether they are safe, effective long-term and whether they change people's relationship with food. No, no and no. The 800 a day diet needs clinical supervision for a start.
Agreed that some diets don't suit everyone for whatever reason but if the scientific underpinnings aren't there then claims cannot/shouldn't be made for them.
There's no money to be made in promoting a healthy balanced diet, of course.
Re: Michael Mosley's diets
OTOH, many people will lose weight if they start any kind of diet, no matter how bizarre or wrong it is. Just thinking about what you are eating and changing habits is often enough to lose weight over the first few weeks.
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
And people don't want to hear that weight loss is about making sustainable permanent changes and not something which can be fixed with a short term diet and then they can carry on as before.
having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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I have lost over 5kg over the last year or so. Main change is I stopped buying a chocolate bar every day from the charity tuck shop. Also more running but I was already running
where once I used to scintillate
now I sin till ten past three
now I sin till ten past three
Re: Michael Mosley's diets
The 5-2 is not a short term diet though. It's an easy permanent change. It's what gets people to think about what they're eating and change habits. Get to realise that full meals every day are unnecessary and it's fine to be peckish without reaching for a snack.
Ultimately this is the old Bad Science problem: saying ah-ha this is just placebo effect, instead of OMG this is brilliant it unlocks the placebo effect.
Ultimately this is the old Bad Science problem: saying ah-ha this is just placebo effect, instead of OMG this is brilliant it unlocks the placebo effect.
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
I've just read the article and it says the opposite to what you present. He specifically says it might well not work and didn't work on him.headshot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:41 amThe same Michael Mosley who claimed on a BBC show that doing high intensity cardio for 3 minutes a week will make you fit?
Quack, quack.
What's the point of posting falsehoods on this forum?
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
I did the 5-2 diet. I did it to lose a specific amount of weight in a specific period. I did not do it to make a permanent change to my diet. I lost a specific amount of weight in a specific period. It worked.
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Well, good. Except that this apparently can't be recommended to people because some of them put the weight back on when they stop, therefore it "doesn't work".El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:43 pmI did the 5-2 diet. I did it to lose a specific amount of weight in a specific period. I did not do it to make a permanent change to my diet. I lost a specific amount of weight in a specific period. It worked.
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And yet he's made a lot of money out of promoting it.lpm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:30 pmI've just read the article and it says the opposite to what you present. He specifically says it might well not work and didn't work on him.headshot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:41 amThe same Michael Mosley who claimed on a BBC show that doing high intensity cardio for 3 minutes a week will make you fit?
Quack, quack.
What's the point of posting falsehoods on this forum?
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Re: Michael Mosley's diets
I just ignore everything he says now.
His first job was in banking.
He's no longer a registered doctor. He moved into the BBC as a trainee producer and has stayed there ever since.
My personal view is that people like him have very poor diets, eat out in 'good' restaurants now and then and exercise in spurts.
His first job was in banking.
He's no longer a registered doctor. He moved into the BBC as a trainee producer and has stayed there ever since.
My personal view is that people like him have very poor diets, eat out in 'good' restaurants now and then and exercise in spurts.