Boris: What next?

[tom p]

Well, according to the guardian "A No 10 spokesperson said: “The prime minister will make a statement to the country today.”"
Doesn't mean he's going to resign. Who knows what that lying c.nt will say

[tom p]

Oh, and just to be boring and now outdated, a motion of no confidence (which some were mooting earlier) is a motion of no confidence in the government, NOT the PM.
Tory MPs would NOT have voted for it. The only reason an opposition party would bring one is to provoke tories into voting for it so it drags things on for longer and they are obliged to actively support the government and thus they as individuals can be discredited (and those who vote against will be loathed by their local party)

[lpm]

It's amazing how many other news stories have simply gone unreported over the last 36 hours. Starmer was fined for Beergate yesterday and resigned, the assassination of Putin barely made the inside pages, and the Queen died this morning.

[Boustrophedon]

And he's gone.

Almost.

[Imrael]

I dont trust this. Wanting to remain PM makes me think he has a "Plan B" of some sort.

[lpm]

Parliament summer recess begins two weeks today, 21 July 2022.

Presumably they want the MP stage to be done by then. A lot of whittling down, though, to go from the 179 announced candidates to 2.

The time frame in 2019 was:

24 May 2019: May announces she will resign as leader 7 June

10 June: nominations officially open

13 June: first ballot

20 June: whittled down to two, Johnson and Hunt

23 July: membership vote counted, Johnson announced winner

24 July: May resigns as PM, Johnson appointed PM

So by my reckoning, if they do indeed get down to the two by 21 July, we can have a new PM on 23 August. Hence I'm not sure why Johnson imagines himself staying until October.

And of course the 2016 timeframe was even shorter. Cameron announced his resignation as leader on 24 June, the whittling down was over within 17 days when only Theresa May was left standing. She became leader on 11 July and Prime Minister on 13 July.

[WFJ]

I dont trust this. Wanting to remain PM makes me think he has a "Plan B" of some sort.

While I wouldn't put any devious plan beyond Johnson, staying on until a new party leader is selected is the normal course of action.

[jimbob]

Parliament summer recess begins two weeks today, 21 July 2022.

Presumably they want the MP stage to be done by then. A lot of whittling down, though, to go from the 179 announced candidates to 2.

The time frame in 2019 was:

24 May 2019: May announces she will resign as leader 7 June

10 June: nominations officially open

13 June: first ballot

20 June: whittled down to two, Johnson and Hunt

23 July: membership vote counted, Johnson announced winner

24 July: May resigns as PM, Johnson appointed PM

So by my reckoning, if they do indeed get down to the two by 21 July, we can have a new PM on 23 August. Hence I'm not sure why Johnson imagines himself staying until October.

And of course the 2016 timeframe was even shorter. Cameron announced his resignation as leader on 24 June, the whittling down was over within 17 days when only Theresa May was left standing. She became leader on 11 July and Prime Minister on 13 July.

I think it might be this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... _of_tenure

34 Boris Johnson 2 years, 348 days (Incumbent) Conservative 2019
33 Theresa May 3 years, 11 days Conservative 2016

[WFJ]

I think it might be this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... _of_tenure

34 Boris Johnson 2 years, 348 days (Incumbent) Conservative 2019
33 Theresa May 3 years, 11 days Conservative 2016

It's a shame that he'll almost certainly pass May, unless he can be kicked out sooner. The Tories should arrange their vote so he gets left on 3 years 10 days just to spite him.

[Little waster]

By coincidence today Johnson passed the length of tenure of the other wartime Conservative PM he'll likely be grouped together with forever more.

[Grumble]

By coincidence today Johnson passed the length of tenure of the other wartime Conservative PM he'll likely be grouped together with forever more.

I’m no great student of politics, but I’ve never even heard of Campbell-Bannerman

[WFJ]

I’m no great student of politics, but I’ve never even heard of Campbell-Bannerman

One of Britain's most transformative PMs, but got ill and died soon after leaving. Asquith continued his programme leading to pensions, unemployment insurance etc after passing the Parliament Act to get it through the Lords.

[Stranger Mouse]

Anyone fancy a coffee?

https://twitter.com/yorkscafe/status/15 ... hROjh0odYQ

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[lpm]

First polling out - looks like Ben Wallace has got this won already.

Reasonably chance no need to go to the Tory membership.

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1544984549024735233

[Stranger Mouse]

Emily Thornberry v Suella Braverman

Ouch

https://twitter.com/pimlicat/status/154 ... hROjh0odYQ

[Imrael]

Apparently, if Boris had needed to be forced out, the Queen would have to tell him he was no longer able to form a government. There is precedent - from 1793. So at least we've escaped that.

One stray thought - can he resign but go on the ballot to succeed himself, hoping to get through to the party membership stage?

[Imrael]

And apparently a couple of appointees with less than 24 hours in service will be entitled to 3 months ministerial rate severance pay.

[lpm]

Yes, Johnson can put himself forward as a candidate. Needs 8 backers though, which he no longer has.

Plausible choices:

Wallace
Mordaunt
Sunak
Truss
Gove
Raab
Tugendhat
Hunt
Zahawi
Javid
Patel
Barclay
Badenoch

[bjn]

Steve Baker wants to have a go at it as well. FSM help us if he gets it. I dislike him more than Raab.

[lpm]

I'm not typing out the list of implausible candidates. It'd be longer than the time I posted loads of names on the Get Well Soon Boris Mate thread and got accused of vandalism.

[Trinucleus]

I dont trust this. Wanting to remain PM makes me think he has a "Plan B" of some sort.

A B and Q lorry has just delivered a load of bricks and cement to number 10

[jimbob]

https://twitter.com/GrundyOxford/status ... 9268453376

Grundy
@GrundyOxford
Normal
7%
“And your specialist subject is?”

“British politics between 1500 and 1640”

“What is it about those 140 years you like?”

“Oh sorry, I meant 3pm and 4.40pm on 6th June 2022”
4:35 PM · Jul 6, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

[jimbob]

Steve Bray has changed his music from Bye Bye Boris

Check out this dignified interview on Sky News

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/stat ... jJN0yK8LzA

[Bird on a Fire]

I dont trust this. Wanting to remain PM makes me think he has a "Plan B" of some sort.

A B and Q lorry has just delivered a load of bricks and cement to number 10

Hope he stocked his wine fridge up first.

[Bird on a Fire]

Pleased to see my cynicism was at least partly misfounded, though.

But I want him out of office, not just out of the party leader spot.