I don't know, and in some senses that is also a subjective measure. I'm not talking about just cost, but also the difficulties in navigating the system.WFJ wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:06 pmHow does the NHS's value compare quantitatively to the health systems of Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland or many other European countries without comprehensive national public healthcare? It's not clear to me that public ownership is required for efficiency or value, and that overall funding is a more important factor in quality of care.dyqik wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:52 pmLPM is glossing over some basic economics to hide the point being argued by deliberately not using quantitative adjectives.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:37 pmSo, tom p is making a point about macroeconomic policy and not about quality of healthcare. Whereas lpm is making a point about quality of healthcare and not about macroeconomic policy.
The fundamental thing here is that fragmented private for profit healthcare needs to be significantly less inefficient than national public healthcare to provide the same value to users.
There's value associated with all insurances being accepted at every provider, and single payer. There's value associated with a uniform booking system, and a uniform records system. The costs of that address largely borne by users in indirect costs, like time and effort in finding providers and making sure that records are up to date