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Some scientists think...

Post by Gfamily » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:08 pm

My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!

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Post by Boustrophedon » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:54 pm

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Re: Some scientists think...

Post by IvanV » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:31 pm

When I read "Some scientists think", two things tend to come to mind.
One is "It would be good idea if they all did".
The other is "If only a minority them think it, why don't the others? Does it lie in their range of expertise and are they competent?"

The phrase is often, in practice, used to try and persuade you something that is bollocks. The continuation in that twitter thread was a bit of a surprise.

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Post by Holylol » Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:54 pm

IvanV wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:31 pm
When I read "Some scientists think", two things tend to come to mind.
One is "It would be good idea if they all did".
The other is "If only a minority them think it, why don't the others? Does it lie in their range of expertise and are they competent?"

The phrase is often, in practice, used to try and persuade you something that is bollocks. The continuation in that twitter thread was a bit of a surprise.
"A study says"...

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Re: Some scientists think...

Post by dyqik » Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:23 pm

Holylol wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:54 pm

"A study says"...
...that x may help prevent/cause y.

[The study then goes on to determine that the evidence for x preventing/causing y is inconclusive, and more research will be required, e.g. by funding the authors latest grant application.]

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Re: Some scientists think...

Post by Sciolus » Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:23 pm

Holylol wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:54 pm
IvanV wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:31 pm
When I read "Some scientists think", two things tend to come to mind.
One is "It would be good idea if they all did".
The other is "If only a minority them think it, why don't the others? Does it lie in their range of expertise and are they competent?"

The phrase is often, in practice, used to try and persuade you something that is bollocks. The continuation in that twitter thread was a bit of a surprise.
"A study says"...
In mice.

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Post by Woodchopper » Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:45 am

Sciolus wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:23 pm
Holylol wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:54 pm
IvanV wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:31 pm
When I read "Some scientists think", two things tend to come to mind.
One is "It would be good idea if they all did".
The other is "If only a minority them think it, why don't the others? Does it lie in their range of expertise and are they competent?"

The phrase is often, in practice, used to try and persuade you something that is bollocks. The continuation in that twitter thread was a bit of a surprise.
"A study says"...
In mice.
Or a single study which hasn't been replicated on a group of 30 undergrads in a public university in the Midwest.

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Re: Some scientists think...

Post by dyqik » Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:52 pm

Woodchopper wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:45 am
Sciolus wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:23 pm
Holylol wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:54 pm


"A study says"...
In mice.
Or a single study which hasn't been replicated on a group of 30 undergrads in a public university private religious college built around a basketball team in the Midwest.
FTFY.

Public universities are far more reputable than the average university in the US.

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Re: Some scientists think...

Post by Little waster » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:00 pm

I once drunkenly did something similar with a pool ball (the white, it’s slightly smaller) in the back of a taxi.

The driver who, reluctantly and eventually, came to my rescue was not impressed.

It remains an n=1 so for the sake of scientific rigour I should probably replicate the study at some point. 8-)
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Re: Some scientists think...

Post by Gfamily » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:12 pm

Little waster wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:00 pm
I once drunkenly did something similar with a pool ball (the white, it’s slightly smaller) in the back of a taxi.

The driver who, reluctantly and eventually, came to my rescue was not impressed.

It remains an n=1 so for the sake of scientific rigour I should probably replicate the study at some point. 8-)
If done in the back of a taxi, we can safely say you're not a Neitzchian Ubermensch.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
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