I assume they're just stock up on stamps and take stuff to the Post Office, or use an online provider.
Who's next?
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Now that the leadership struggle is concluded, at least for now, we can begin recording the many horrors of the Truss Ministry on the well-balanced and objective thread I've created.
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Within a short while she'll make May look decisive and charismatic.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:20 amNow that the leadership struggle is concluded, at least for now, we can begin recording the many horrors of the Truss Ministry on the well-balanced and objective thread I've created.
So we might as well keep this thread open for the next one.
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very Fair and Balanced™.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:20 amNow that the leadership struggle is concluded, at least for now, we can begin recording the many horrors of the Truss Ministry on the well-balanced and objective thread I've created.
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And what's wrong with that?
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They should be in-situ or in museums, not Cabinet ministers, especially as it's a carefully-cultivated persona for Rees-Mogg, hiding his radical right-wing authoritarianism behind a laughable facade?
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For all his faults - at least BoJo won a GE before f.cking things up. He had a mandate to be a buffoon because that's what the nation voted for.
No-one has voted for Kami Kwarsi Trussonomics...
No-one has voted for Kami Kwarsi Trussonomics...
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unless its Lion or Osterich poo... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html
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~200k old white guys have
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I did ask a colleague (probably in August) if Truss would be the first PM in our lifetimes who never faced a general election.
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FTFY
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What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
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As in "to become PM" or as in "before being thrown out"?
As Major, Brown, May and Johnson all took over mid-Parliaments (before going on to face a GE).
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What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
Re: Who's next?
As in neither gaining, holding, nor losing the premiership via a general election.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:08 pmAs in "to become PM" or as in "before being thrown out"?
As Major, Brown, May and Johnson all took over mid-Parliaments (before going on to face a GE).
I cannot remember the last someone both won and lost their premiership via a general election.
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I think it was Heath 1970-1974. Except even that ended in a hung parliament.jimbob wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:14 pmAs in neither gaining, holding, nor losing the premiership via a general election.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:08 pmAs in "to become PM" or as in "before being thrown out"?
As Major, Brown, May and Johnson all took over mid-Parliaments (before going on to face a GE).
I cannot remember the last someone both won and lost their premiership via a general election.
You're back to Wilson in 1964 for the last time there was a parliament neatly bookended with straight-forward transfers of PM. And even that was actually a concatenated 2 year and 4 year parliaments.
AFAICT you have to go back to 1874 and Disraeli for the last time a PM was appointed after winning a GE, governed for a full Parliament(s) and was deposed in a subsequent GE with a clean transfer of power to the other party.
It's surprisingly not that common. Most PMs either are appointed or resigned mid-Parliament or call an early GE or come out of or go into a Coalition.
This place is not a place of honor, no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here, nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.
This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.
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I'd say calling a snap election is validLittle waster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:23 pmI think it was Heath 1970-1974. Except even that ended in a hung parliament.jimbob wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:14 pmAs in neither gaining, holding, nor losing the premiership via a general election.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:08 pm
As in "to become PM" or as in "before being thrown out"?
As Major, Brown, May and Johnson all took over mid-Parliaments (before going on to face a GE).
I cannot remember the last someone both won and lost their premiership via a general election.
You're back to Wilson in 1964 for the last time there was a parliament neatly bookended with straight-forward transfers of PM. And even that was actually a concatenated 2 year and 4 year parliaments.
AFAICT you have to go back to 1874 and Disraeli for the last time a PM was appointed after winning a GE, governed for a full Parliament(s) and was deposed in a subsequent GE with a clean transfer of power to the other party.
It's surprisingly not that common. Most PMs either are appointed or resigned mid-Parliament or call an early GE or come out of or go into a Coalition.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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The last PM to have never faced a general election as party leader was Neville Chamberlain. Which is a slightly difficult thing as there wasn't an election for ten years between 1935 and 1945, but still.
Before Chamberlain, it was Arthur Balfour, actually Balfour fought the 1906 and both 1910 elections, so it wasn't him. As far as I can tell, the previous PM to Chamberlain never to have fought an election was George Hamilton-Gordon, Earl of Aberdeen, PM for two years in the 1850s.
Before Chamberlain, it was Arthur Balfour, actually Balfour fought the 1906 and both 1910 elections, so it wasn't him. As far as I can tell, the previous PM to Chamberlain never to have fought an election was George Hamilton-Gordon, Earl of Aberdeen, PM for two years in the 1850s.
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Time to revive this one.
Kwarteng out, Hunt in.
Kwarteng out, Hunt in.
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Haha honestly it’s f.cking bonkers. Will the 1922 change the rules to boot her out? Will mordant and sunak command the respect of the members? Does anyone give a toss? It’s so utterly esoteric.
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Yeah the UK constitution reads like a fanpage retconning at this point.
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Some dusty pompous tw.t in robes from some Latin sounding Oxford college will be wheeled out to proclaim the next set of rules to us grateful pathetic plebs
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Might as well just embrace being a Harry Potter theme park of a country at this point
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Is Hunt the new PM, just waiting for a few formalities to be sorted out in a little while?
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Rehabilitating himself with the party membership is the only reason I can think for Hunt to become chancellor under Truss; he's from a fundamentally different part of the Tory party and been on the outside following his challenge against Boris. I can see him thinking that becoming chancellor could see him with a possible route back to power and/or relevance within the party.
But he probably wasn't going to lose his seat - he's my parent's MP and while he's more Brexity than the local population (who voted for Remain) he's not disliked enough for a local challenger to try and replace him; he'd only lose it if the party machine decided to replace him at the next election, and I think they have more significant issues.
What may happen is that after the next election (if and when the Tories have significant losses) Hunt becomes the prince of the moderate Tories and possibly leader of the opposition.
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