Derbyshire is of course home to the Devonshires.lpm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:07 pmPossibly richest ever PM. Hard to compare across eras.
Robert Walpole was probably the richest. Inherited a vast estate - and then invested a fortune in the South Sea Bubble at the start and sold at the peak. Built a Norfolk palace.
Earl of Derby was also as rich as f.ck. Inherited most of Lancashire and vast lands elsewhere. Oddly enough the family didn't own so much as an acre in Derbyshire.
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Liz Truss is likely to be the poorest PM ever. No family money. John Major might be a contender - but went on to make millions afterwards. That doesn't seem likely for Truss.
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Mmmm. Ramsay MacDonald, Harold Wilson and James Callaghan didn’t inherit wealth and as far as I know didn’t have significant incomes outside their parliamentary salaries.
Though we’ll have to wait and see how long Truss remains an MP.
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Presumably they also stopped being PM later in life, so didn't manage to claim nearly as much in the way of post PMship expenses as Truss could.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pmMmmm. Ramsay MacDonald, Harold Wilson and James Callaghan didn’t inherit wealth and as far as I know didn’t have significant incomes outside their parliamentary salaries.
Though we’ll have to wait and see how long Truss remains an MP.
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As I posted in the Who's Next? thread https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63350359dyqik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:52 pmPresumably they also stopped being PM later in life, so didn't manage to claim nearly as much in the way of post PMship expenses as Truss could.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pmMmmm. Ramsay MacDonald, Harold Wilson and James Callaghan didn’t inherit wealth and as far as I know didn’t have significant incomes outside their parliamentary salaries.
Though we’ll have to wait and see how long Truss remains an MP.
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Yeah but back then a middle class salary could buy you a 5 bedroom house, a flat cap and all the whippets you could eat. Liz Truss isn't exactly the intellectual after dinner speaker you'd pick, unless all the z list celebs from Love Iskand were unavailable.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pmMmmm. Ramsay MacDonald, Harold Wilson and James Callaghan didn’t inherit wealth and as far as I know didn’t have significant incomes outside their parliamentary salaries.
Though we’ll have to wait and see how long Truss remains an MP.
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Well, the Cavendish family, who are the Dukes of Devonshire.Grumble wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:10 pmDerbyshire is of course home to the Devonshires.lpm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:07 pmPossibly richest ever PM. Hard to compare across eras.
Robert Walpole was probably the richest. Inherited a vast estate - and then invested a fortune in the South Sea Bubble at the start and sold at the peak. Built a Norfolk palace.
Earl of Derby was also as rich as f.ck. Inherited most of Lancashire and vast lands elsewhere. Oddly enough the family didn't own so much as an acre in Derbyshire.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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MacDonald and Callahagn were older, though Lucky Jim lived into his 90s. I think Wilson and Truss were about the same age when Wilson first became Prime Minister. Though I don't know whether he got the equivalent lifetime benefits.dyqik wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:52 pmPresumably they also stopped being PM later in life, so didn't manage to claim nearly as much in the way of post PMship expenses as Truss could.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pmMmmm. Ramsay MacDonald, Harold Wilson and James Callaghan didn’t inherit wealth and as far as I know didn’t have significant incomes outside their parliamentary salaries.
Though we’ll have to wait and see how long Truss remains an MP.
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Which makes the concern expressed in some circles around Blair’s incipient Catholicism, to the extent he felt he couldn’t formally convert until after he left office, so bizarre. Along with the residual handful of other openly anti-Catholic statutes on the Law Books,
I’ll leave wild speculation over why Blair was so desperate to convert to a religion which offered the prospect of the Absolution of Sins through Confession as an exercise for the reader.
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Well ostensibly before that he was protestant, which makes the whole forgiveness of sins thing even f.cking easier, so it was hardly a choice based on that
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While we're talking about stupid irrational beliefs held by morons, the bronze age storytellers would have got excited by this morning's events - the sun will be darkened by an eclipse at the moment Sunak is anointed.
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It's not an eclipse, it's Boris Johnson jumping to try to get his boxers down from out of a tree
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There is a non-zero percentage chance that last comment may not have been 100% serious.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:02 amWell ostensibly before that he was protestant, which makes the whole forgiveness of sins thing even f.cking easier, so it was hardly a choice based on that
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Having just heard Truss f.ck up a reference to Seneca in her farewell speech I concur.lpm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:36 pmYeah but back then a middle class salary could buy you a 5 bedroom house, a flat cap and all the whippets you could eat. Liz Truss isn't exactly the intellectual after dinner speaker you'd pick, unless all the z list celebs from Love Iskand were unavailable.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pmMmmm. Ramsay MacDonald, Harold Wilson and James Callaghan didn’t inherit wealth and as far as I know didn’t have significant incomes outside their parliamentary salaries.
Though we’ll have to wait and see how long Truss remains an MP.
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Honestly, if I hear one more time that thing where they say THE PRIME MINISTER HAS RESIGNED FOR THE NEXT FIFTEEN MINUTES THE KING* IS IN CHARGE OF THE COUNTRY I'm going to scream
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I just had a look. There's a cloud over the sun. Peak eclipse in London is 10.59.
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Only a temporary mooning then.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:17 amIt's not an eclipse, it's Boris Johnson jumping to try to get his boxers down from out of a tree
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Am I right in thinking that we now have a PM who thinks that NFTs are a good idea and not total b.llsh.t?
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Yes. Which tells you just how incoherent he is on economics.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:27 pmAm I right in thinking that we now have a PM who thinks that NFTs are a good idea and not total b.llsh.t?
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That depends.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:27 pmAm I right in thinking that we now have a PM who thinks that NFTs are a good idea and not total b.llsh.t?
Does NFT stand for No-more f.cking Trussonomics?
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No f.cking Thing.Little waster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:49 pmThat depends.El Pollo Diablo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:27 pmAm I right in thinking that we now have a PM who thinks that NFTs are a good idea and not total b.llsh.t?
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Braverman still Home Sec ffs. Gotta keep the fash wing of the party on side, but perhaps while lightly trolling them by appointing a bigot of colour.
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There's a veriable feast of 'talent' being appointed by Captain Sensible innit.
Braverman, Raab, Jenrick, Gavin f.cking Williamson ...
Holy f.ck, this is going to be a hella administration. 'Eye-watering decisions' for sure.
Buckle up.
Braverman, Raab, Jenrick, Gavin f.cking Williamson ...
Holy f.ck, this is going to be a hella administration. 'Eye-watering decisions' for sure.
Buckle up.
Time for a big fat one.
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And an Equalities Minister who is openly hostile to a minority.
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I used to know a Sikh who was a member of Immigration Watch. Definitely a tendency to immigrate then want to pull up the drawbridge behind you.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:01 pmBraverman still Home Sec ffs. Gotta keep the fash wing of the party on side, but perhaps while lightly trolling them by appointing a bigot of colour.
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