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Everyone is now locked out of Twitter offices until next week, and 90% of the engineering staff have quit or been fired. As have most of the moderation staff.
This is after remote working was banned last week.
This is after remote working was banned last week.
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The lettuce is still going, by the way.
http://lettuce.wtf/
Also Elon hasn't reached Liz Truss's milestone yet.
http://lettuce.wtf/
Also Elon hasn't reached Liz Truss's milestone yet.
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My entire Twitter timeline now is people saying goodbye to Twitter or making jokes about Twitter's demise.
And Mastodon.social has crawled to a stop.
And Mastodon.social has crawled to a stop.
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TeslaTrump seems like the kind of guy who always trusts his own farts, and so occasionally shits himself.
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Interesting, my timeline is has lots of tweets like this one: https://twitter.com/charles_lister/stat ... szTOB8S9bQ
I guess our views are influenced by what people on our networks are writing.
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https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/17/234 ... e-deadlineRemaining and departing Twitter employees told The Verge that, given the scale of the resignations this week, they expect the platform to start breaking soon.
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Multiple “critical” teams inside Twitter have now either completely or near-completely resigned, said other employees who requested anonymity to speak without Musk’s permission. That includes Twitter’s traffic and front end teams that route engineering requests to the correct backend services. The team that maintains Twitter’s core system libraries that every engineer at the company uses is also gone. “You cannot run Twitter without this team,” a departing employee said.
Several members of Twitter’s “Command Center” team, a group of engineers that is on call 24/7 and acts as the clearing house for problems internally, also tweeted about their departures. “If they go down, there is no one to call when sh.t breaks,” said a person familiar with how the team operates. The team that manages Twitter API for developers has also been severely gutted.
https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1 ... pLuitTZ24wHundreds upon hundreds of Twitter employees have technically resigned but still have access to Twitter’s internal systems, with some speculating it is because the employees tasked with managing that access also resigned.
https://twitter.com/hayskali/status/159 ... pLuitTZ24wSooo I’m told by two people that the entirety of Twitters payroll department has resigned/not elected to sign up for Elons Twitter 2.0
Musk keeps writing that more people are using Twitter than ever. They are probably reading about it’s demise.
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Wonder if the team that feeds that stupid fail whale has been fired yet.
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As far as I know a FedSearch server was built and set up. But taken down after opposition from the Mastodon community.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:05 pm
I guess there'd be nothing stopping some servers having some kind of log to enable plain-text search, that could even be federalised amongst consenting servers, even if it needed some kind of upgrade. It's foss so wevs.
Can't say I personally considered text search a key feature of twitter, but can see why it would be useful. Culturomics researchers would miss out too.
It’s a trade-off between openness and privacy of users.
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Responses to "we just hit another all-time high in Twitter usage lol"
https://twitter.com/dappergander/status ... 0357129216
https://twitter.com/dappergander/status ... 0357129216
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Clearly the social networks that have built up on the Twitter platform over the last decade will be enormously valuable in a lot of cases.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:45 amInteresting, my timeline is has lots of tweets like this one: https://twitter.com/charles_lister/stat ... szTOB8S9bQ
I guess our views are influenced by what people on our networks are writing.
I don't think that necessarily means the underlying software, or the corporation that owns it, is essential to the process.
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Relatedly for journalists: if your primary source of information is stuff you find via an opaque algorithm owned and operated by a corporation built by a rich silicon valley techbro, and then taken over by the world's richest man, you should probably call yourself a PR agent instead.
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How does that work for, say Bellingcat, using Syrian civilians tweeting about Assad's crimes against humanity with photographic evidence?dyqik wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:17 amRelatedly for journalists: if your primary source of information is stuff you find via an opaque algorithm owned and operated by a corporation built by a rich silicon valley techbro, and then taken over by the world's richest man, you should probably call yourself a PR agent instead.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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I wasn't referring to that specifically. More the journalists that use "popular on Twitter" as a measure of what the zeitgeist is that they should write stories about. US political takes in particular.jimbob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:25 amHow does that work for, say Bellingcat, using Syrian civilians tweeting about Assad's crimes against humanity with photographic evidence?dyqik wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:17 amRelatedly for journalists: if your primary source of information is stuff you find via an opaque algorithm owned and operated by a corporation built by a rich silicon valley techbro, and then taken over by the world's richest man, you should probably call yourself a PR agent instead.
I do wonder how much of Trump's rise was due to too many journalists showing too much time on Twitter, and thinking that what it showed them was what the people thought was important.
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This. Without functions like that, we'd not have been able to trace the movements of the Buk that shot down MH17.jimbob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:25 amHow does that work for, say Bellingcat, using Syrian civilians tweeting about Assad's crimes against humanity with photographic evidence?dyqik wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:17 amRelatedly for journalists: if your primary source of information is stuff you find via an opaque algorithm owned and operated by a corporation built by a rich silicon valley techbro, and then taken over by the world's richest man, you should probably call yourself a PR agent instead.
For which Igor Girkin has just been convicted in absentia, btw.
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Here's a useful summary of where things are - https://twitterisgoinggreat.com/
Highlight:
The entire US payroll and tax department has quit.
Highlight:
The entire US payroll and tax department has quit.
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To be fair, it's not the job of a private corporation to help protestors in Iran or assist in bringing war criminals to justice. Those were just fortunate side-effects.EACLucifer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:31 amThis. Without functions like that, we'd not have been able to trace the movements of the Buk that shot down MH17.jimbob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:25 amHow does that work for, say Bellingcat, using Syrian civilians tweeting about Assad's crimes against humanity with photographic evidence?dyqik wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:17 amRelatedly for journalists: if your primary source of information is stuff you find via an opaque algorithm owned and operated by a corporation built by a rich silicon valley techbro, and then taken over by the world's richest man, you should probably call yourself a PR agent instead.
For which Igor Girkin has just been convicted in absentia, btw.
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I still think there's a bit of conflation of
1. The people present on the Twitter platform, and
2. The Twitter platform itself.
2 is pretty easily replaceable with the important features. People who want their posts to be searchable will have to remember to use the # key if they decamp to Mastodon, or some other replacement will emerge (hopefully not privately owned this time).
1 is trickier and harder to predict. It's also the more important part. But if Twitter really does have to sort severance pay for most of its tens of thousands of employees with no payroll department it's not even a given that the lights will stay on next week. So might need a bit of thought.
1. The people present on the Twitter platform, and
2. The Twitter platform itself.
2 is pretty easily replaceable with the important features. People who want their posts to be searchable will have to remember to use the # key if they decamp to Mastodon, or some other replacement will emerge (hopefully not privately owned this time).
1 is trickier and harder to predict. It's also the more important part. But if Twitter really does have to sort severance pay for most of its tens of thousands of employees with no payroll department it's not even a given that the lights will stay on next week. So might need a bit of thought.
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There are still platform issues though. To take the linked person as an example, as far as I can tell from the academic Mastodon server rules I’ve seen if he had an account there pretty much everything he’d write or read would need to be behind a content warning. (For example scholar.social , expects content warnings around anything about current events, conflict or death and violence.)Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:47 amClearly the social networks that have built up on the Twitter platform over the last decade will be enormously valuable in a lot of cases.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:45 amInteresting, my timeline is has lots of tweets like this one: https://twitter.com/charles_lister/stat ... szTOB8S9bQ
I guess our views are influenced by what people on our networks are writing.
I don't think that necessarily means the underlying software, or the corporation that owns it, is essential to the process.
Which would make using the platform to share information rather impractical.
That isn’t to criticise Mastodon users. It’s entirely reasonable for people not to want to read about atrocities in Syria or elsewhere. People who do work on that stuff need to see therapists.
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That is definitely an issue. A consequent problem is politicians taking up issues because they are discussed on Twitter by journalists.dyqik wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:29 amI wasn't referring to that specifically. More the journalists that use "popular on Twitter" as a measure of what the zeitgeist is that they should write stories about. US political takes in particular.jimbob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:25 amHow does that work for, say Bellingcat, using Syrian civilians tweeting about Assad's crimes against humanity with photographic evidence?dyqik wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:17 amRelatedly for journalists: if your primary source of information is stuff you find via an opaque algorithm owned and operated by a corporation built by a rich silicon valley techbro, and then taken over by the world's richest man, you should probably call yourself a PR agent instead.
I do wonder how much of Trump's rise was due to too many journalists showing too much time on Twitter, and thinking that what it showed them was what the people thought was important.
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This is as much a comment about the friction of moving an internet community from one platform to another.dyqik wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:39 pmPeople keep saying that, but it's where communities that were driven off Twitter by abuse ended up, well before this all started.EACLucifer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:06 pmMastodon might work fine for various nerds - no offence to the various nerds here - but it cannot easily substitute for twitter among the established twitter communities.
If anything, it works better for communities that aren't the mainstream, because it isn't a system designed to maximize advertiser return by boosting the mainstream.
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Yeah, scholar.social seems to be mega strict. Plenty of other servers are available, though. Presumably academics from a field studying current events wouldn't use one that bans them from talking about their work. But if they're signed up somewhere else there's nothing stopping them reading posts from scholar.social anyway.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:54 amThere are still platform issues though. To take the linked person as an example, as far as I can tell from the academic Mastodon server rules I’ve seen if he had an account there pretty much everything he’d write or read would need to be behind a content warning. (For example scholar.social , expects content warnings around anything about current events, conflict or death and violence.)Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:47 amClearly the social networks that have built up on the Twitter platform over the last decade will be enormously valuable in a lot of cases.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:45 am
Interesting, my timeline is has lots of tweets like this one: https://twitter.com/charles_lister/stat ... szTOB8S9bQ
I guess our views are influenced by what people on our networks are writing.
I don't think that necessarily means the underlying software, or the corporation that owns it, is essential to the process.
Which would make using the platform to share information rather impractical.
That isn’t to criticise Mastodon users. It’s entirely reasonable for people not to want to read about atrocities in Syria or elsewhere. People who do work on that stuff need to see therapists.
This is a "getting used to how a different platform works" issue, not an inherent issue with the platform itself. Twitter was confusing when it was new too.
In my field there's a few other servers already, such as https://ecoevo.social, which has much less restrictive rules:
Fediscience is similar:No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, or casteism
No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies
No harassment, dogpiling, or doxxing of other users
No intentional sharing of false or misleading information
No posting of sexually explicit or violent media
No content that is considered illegal in France and/or Germany
We could well end up with institutions hosting their own instances, the way they do with email, which also automatically takes care of many verification issues.You do not have to give your name, but please tell us about your expertise and interests in your bio and introduce yourself using the #introductions hashtag.
Don’t do anything that’s illegal in Germany or were you live.
We want to be inclusive; do not engage in exclusionary behaviour or language. Consider not only the current interaction, but how it would be if your behaviour were common.
Don’t harass people. Respect it if people want to stop an interaction. Sexual attention can constitute harassment, even if it wasn’t intended to cause upset.
Please relax. Don’t assume you know better than the person you’re talking to.
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Content Warnings are a key feature of Mastodon as a platform, and designed to be used extremely liberally. They get used for basic daily political news as well as things that actually benefit from traditional CWs. In the wider Fediverse they are just subject lines - much like those on this post and thread.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:54 amThere are still platform issues though. To take the linked person as an example, as far as I can tell from the academic Mastodon server rules I’ve seen if he had an account there pretty much everything he’d write or read would need to be behind a content warning. (For example scholar.social , expects content warnings around anything about current events, conflict or death and violence.)Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:47 amClearly the social networks that have built up on the Twitter platform over the last decade will be enormously valuable in a lot of cases.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:45 am
Interesting, my timeline is has lots of tweets like this one: https://twitter.com/charles_lister/stat ... szTOB8S9bQ
I guess our views are influenced by what people on our networks are writing.
I don't think that necessarily means the underlying software, or the corporation that owns it, is essential to the process.
Which would make using the platform to share information rather impractical.
That isn’t to criticise Mastodon users. It’s entirely reasonable for people not to want to read about atrocities in Syria or elsewhere. People who do work on that stuff need to see therapists.
Requiring them is not a significant barrier to anything - anyone can set them to expand automatically, so that they don't exist if you don't want them to.
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the "forum swear filter" phenomenon
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Moved a few posts specifically about setting up a Mastodon account to the Mastodon thread: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3639
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