bjn wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:01 pm
From a pure Machiavellian geopolitical perspective, foregoing the chance to take out a major rival at little or no risk to yourself is utterly nuts. It will also destabilise the region if Russia gains anything from this adventure. All for short term political gain. Add in the ethics of stopping a fascist taking over another country, it borders on evil collaboration.
The more extreme Republicans frequently praise Putin and Orban, and admire the socal cohesion they are trying to produce.
Ok, so there is some evil collaboration on the fringes as well.
bjn wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:01 pm
From a pure Machiavellian geopolitical perspective, foregoing the chance to take out a major rival at little or no risk to yourself is utterly nuts. It will also destabilise the region if Russia gains anything from this adventure. All for short term political gain. Add in the ethics of stopping a fascist taking over another country, it borders on evil collaboration.
The more extreme Republicans frequently praise Putin and Orban, and admire the socal cohesion they are trying to produce.
Ok, so there is some evil collaboration on the fringes as well.
And probably in the (still extremist) mainstream as well, but they're smart enough to keep quiet about it.
bjn wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:01 pm
From a pure Machiavellian geopolitical perspective, foregoing the chance to take out a major rival at little or no risk to yourself is utterly nuts. It will also destabilise the region if Russia gains anything from this adventure. All for short term political gain. Add in the ethics of stopping a fascist taking over another country, it borders on evil collaboration.
The more extreme Republicans frequently praise Putin and Orban, and admire the socal cohesion they are trying to produce.
There is that tendency. There is also old fashioned isolationism and a belief that Russia doesn't pose a realistic threat to the US and the US shouldn't be responsible for protecting states in other continents.
Probably the biggest factor is just plain old partisanship. Republicans are against any policy associated with a Democrat president, no need for details.
bjn wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:01 pm
From a pure Machiavellian geopolitical perspective, foregoing the chance to take out a major rival at little or no risk to yourself is utterly nuts. It will also destabilise the region if Russia gains anything from this adventure. All for short term political gain. Add in the ethics of stopping a fascist taking over another country, it borders on evil collaboration.
The more extreme Republicans frequently praise Putin and Orban, and admire the socal cohesion they are trying to produce.
There is that tendency. There is also old fashioned isolationism and a belief that Russia doesn't pose a realistic threat to the US and the US shouldn't be responsible for protecting states in other continents.
Probably the biggest factor is just plain old partisanship. Republicans are against any policy associated with a Democrat president, no need for details.
I think the biggest factor is in fact Russian efforts to court Republicans, plying them with attention, affirmation, dodgy money, and women.
Lol the f.cking Kremlin got hit by a drone/loitering munition. Sadly it doesn't look like there was much damage, and Russian media are racing to clarify that the Khuylo wasn't harmed.
EACLucifer wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 12:35 pm
Lol the f.cking Kremlin got hit by a drone/loitering munition. Sadly it doesn't look like there was much damage, and Russian media are racing to clarify that the Khuylo wasn't harmed.
Various false flag theories on that Twitter. But I doubt it. This is a symbolic humiliation for Russia and its leader (though of course there are ways for him to to exploit it).
"Symbolic" seems to cover it, assuming it actually was the Ukrainians. A small explosion, right over the top of the building but seemingly no damage caused at all. Pretty obviously not a serious attempt to assassinate Putin unless he's in the habit of climbing the flagpole at night.
Martin Y wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 2:54 pm
"Symbolic" seems to cover it, assuming it actually was the Ukrainians. A small explosion, right over the top of the building but seemingly no damage caused at all. Pretty obviously not a serious attempt to assassinate Putin unless he's in the habit of climbing the flagpole at night.
Apparently he doesn't usually sleep in the Kremlin anyway.
The drone in the footage I posted above narrowly missed, perhaps a consequence of GPS deviation. It's possible it could have caused a nasty fire with a direct hit, depending on what's holding that dome up.
May the 9th will be interesting - Ukrainian businessman Volodymyr Yatsenko has announced something in the realm of a million dollars as a prize for a drone to land on Red Square during the parade.
Also please note that while Ukraine spent the night bombing a military/government HQ, an airbase and a fuel depot, Russia's spent today shelling the city of Kherson, killing more than a dozen civilians so far.
While doing his obligatory community service (Zivildienst) in a West German hospital in 1989, Rust stabbed a female co-worker who had rejected him. The victim barely survived.
“Bit of an oddball”
where once I used to scintillate
now I sin till ten past three
Their argument seems to rely to an extent on the beefing up of Moscow's air defences. While it is true that the drone would have flown within about seven hundred metres of a Pantsir, anyone who has been following this war closely enough to note the actual performance of Pantsirs would realise this doesn't mean much.
What is clear is that it wasn't an assassination attempt, unles Putin likes to poledance on the Kremlin flagpole at two in the morning (apologies to whoever I stole that line off, I can't remember right now)
While doing his obligatory community service (Zivildienst) in a West German hospital in 1989, Rust stabbed a female co-worker who had rejected him. The victim barely survived.
Their argument seems to rely to an extent on the beefing up of Moscow's air defences. While it is true that the drone would have flown within about seven hundred metres of a Pantsir, anyone who has been following this war closely enough to note the actual performance of Pantsirs would realise this doesn't mean much.
What is clear is that it wasn't an assassination attempt, unles Putin likes to poledance on the Kremlin flagpole at two in the morning (apologies to whoever I stole that line off, I can't remember right now)
