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TopBadger wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:59 am Gaza-lago... :shock:
Darkly funny. Nicely done.
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The CIA sent a list of all their staff hired in the last two years in an "unclassified" email to the White House. Suggestions that if China etc. get hold of the list then it's a disaster for US intelligence. I'm guessing someone pressured them into a rush job.
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-ho ... 1201861984

Wonder how many other apparent slip-ups will come to light.
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Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
You can't polish a turd...
unless its Lion or Osterich poo... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html
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TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
The breaking things is entirely the point.
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bjn wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:05 pm
TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
The breaking things is entirely the point.
It’s how the Nazis got such control, or part of how
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Grumble wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:24 pm
bjn wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:05 pm
TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
The breaking things is entirely the point.
It’s how the Nazis got such control, or part of how
There does appear to be a Kristallnacht of human rights in progress
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Tessa K wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:01 pm
Grumble wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:24 pm
bjn wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:05 pm

The breaking things is entirely the point.
It’s how the Nazis got such control, or part of how
There does appear to be a Kristallnacht of human rights in progress
This resignation of a DOGE operative because of his eugenics opinions surprises me as I thought it would get him a promotion
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 93784.html
Sanctuary f.cking Moon?
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Sanctioning the ICC? WTF?
You can't polish a turd...
unless its Lion or Osterich poo... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html
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TopBadger wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:53 am Sanctioning the ICC? WTF?
They won’t be held to account in the USA, why do you think they would let anyone hold them or their allies to account.
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Stranger Mouse wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:36 am
Tessa K wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:01 pm
Grumble wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:24 pm

It’s how the Nazis got such control, or part of how
There does appear to be a Kristallnacht of human rights in progress
This resignation of a DOGE operative because of his eugenics opinions surprises me as I thought it would get him a promotion
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 93784.html
I don't understand how this sort of unpleasantness could have got past the extensive security vetting they went through.

I mean, Trump granted himself a magic wand and tapped Musk with it, giving Musk instant security clearance, and then Musk in turn vouched for the Muskrats. It seems like a foolproof vetting procedure, so what went wrong?
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It turns out that security clearances exist for a reason.
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TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
...not to mention air traffic control

The thought of Elon applying his software development ethos to ATC is a trifle worrying. I don't think I'll be flying to the US any time soon
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philbo wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:05 pm
TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
...not to mention air traffic control

The thought of Elon applying his software development ethos to ATC is a trifle worrying. I don't think I'll be flying to the US any time soon
To be fair, US ATC systems belong in a museum. Although I entirely agree that "fail fast" would be a worrying strategy for replacing them
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TopBadger wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:53 am Sanctioning the ICC? WTF?
Trump did this in his first term as well.
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bolo wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:04 pm
philbo wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:05 pm
TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
...not to mention air traffic control

The thought of Elon applying his software development ethos to ATC is a trifle worrying. I don't think I'll be flying to the US any time soon
To be fair, US ATC systems belong in a museum. Although I entirely agree that "fail fast" would be a worrying strategy for replacing them
I believe this is the third fatal plane crash since the inauguration.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/m ... s-34632570
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Stranger Mouse wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:43 am
bolo wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:04 pm
philbo wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:05 pm
...not to mention air traffic control

The thought of Elon applying his software development ethos to ATC is a trifle worrying. I don't think I'll be flying to the US any time soon
To be fair, US ATC systems belong in a museum. Although I entirely agree that "fail fast" would be a worrying strategy for replacing them
I believe this is the third fatal plane crash since the inauguration.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/m ... s-34632570
It might be, but anyone who lurks at PPRune will know that incidents involving the type that crashed in Alaska can happen for reasons that have nothing to do with ATC, same for medical flights

The Potomac midair is an ATC systems / procedures issue though, and lots of (safer) procedures that are used elsewhere aren't used because of the higher air traffic density in the US, especially general aviation
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Seems like they're heading for a Trumpist Cultural Revolution.
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It does seem that most of his outlandish gibberings have been halted by judges with more sense than a small piece of cheese.
It first was a rumour dismissed as a lie, but then came the evidence none could deny:
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!
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I'm more amused than surprised that another scandalous tale has emerged regarding one of Musk's army of artful dodgers. It is alleged one was previously fired from an internship at a cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets.

https://fortune.com/2025/02/07/musks-do ... y-secrets/

That's exactly the sort of person you want to grant admin rights to the machinery of national government and set them loose. Said nobody, obviously. Except Musk who would appear to be responsible for hiring him and granting him the keys to the kingdom after whatever lack of vetting he deemed necessary.

I'm watching the absence of headline news (so far) about this like a lit firework which unexpectedly hasn't done anything.
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bjn wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:05 pm
TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
The breaking things is entirely the point.
Absolutely
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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jimbob wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:02 pm
bjn wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:05 pm
TopBadger wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm Gotta move fast and break things dawg...

Wonder how long it will take for the penny to drop and for Trump to realize that start-up culture isn't suited for government.
The breaking things is entirely the point.
Absolutely
Yes, lots of people go around saying that they want to smash the state. Trump and Musk are trying it, or at least bits of it.

Been reading Robert Harris’ Cicero trilogy. Striking parallels in terms of an alliance between plutocrats and plebeians against the middle. Looking at the MAGAists rejoice at the technocrats in USAID getting fired emphasies the class war motivations.
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Applicants for senior roles in the FBI etc. have to declare that the 2020 election was stolen, that the Jan. 6 rioters were "the real patriots", and so on, according to the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... screening/
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Brightonian wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:48 pm Applicants for senior roles in the FBI etc. have to declare that the 2020 election was stolen, that the Jan. 6 rioters were "the real patriots", and so on, according to the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... screening/
The only thing I’m surprised by is that they don’t have to swear personal fealty to Trump and his heirs.
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Stranger Mouse wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:36 am This resignation of a DOGE operative because of his eugenics opinions surprises me as I thought it would get him a promotion
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 93784.html
Musk has reinstated him.
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