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If you were spending 12am to 3am making 150 posts on your social media platform, you would be sleepy.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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Grumble wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:20 am
headshot wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:15 am Your commitment to medical accuracy is laudable. Not sure Trump applies the same rules when coming up with the nicknames he uses.
It’s the difference between a nickname that stings his supporters and one that they can just ignore
Dozzy Don?
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bjn wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 12:15 pm
Grumble wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:20 am
headshot wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:15 am Your commitment to medical accuracy is laudable. Not sure Trump applies the same rules when coming up with the nicknames he uses.
It’s the difference between a nickname that stings his supporters and one that they can just ignore
Dozzy Don?
Doesn’t have to sting much
where once I used to scintillate
now I sin till ten past three
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Brightonian wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:20 pm Trump gets his Peace Prize
I thought the GOP were against participation prizes?
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Brightonian wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:20 pm Trump gets his Peace Prize
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I still can't quite believe we're living in a world where a football tournament organiser decides to create a peace prize to give to a great of state.
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You can’t believe FIFA is bribing heads of state?

The only difference is the utter transparency.
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headshot wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:59 am You can’t believe FIFA is bribing heads of state?

The only difference is the utter transparency.
Isn't it normally the other way round with the bribe thing?
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bjn wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 3:07 pm
headshot wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:59 am You can’t believe FIFA is bribing heads of state?

The only difference is the utter transparency.
Isn't it normally the other way round with the bribe thing?
Why not both?

ETA: The total cast for FIFA was a sh.tty medallion they probably ordered off Ali Baba.
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FlammableFlower wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:47 am I still can't quite believe we're living in a world where a football tournament organiser decides to create a peace prize to give to a great of state.
Next we'll have the Nobel Foundation doing Golden Boot prizes!
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Normally in these ceremonies the medal is placed over the head of the awardee by the awarder... so I thought it apt that Trump had to place it on himself...

We've 3 years and one month more of this sh.t...
You can't polish a turd...
unless its Lion or Osterich poo... http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbus ... -turd.html
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bob sterman wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 6:46 pm
FlammableFlower wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 11:47 am I still can't quite believe we're living in a world where a football tournament organiser decides to create a peace prize to give to a great of state.
Next we'll have the Nobel Foundation doing Golden Boot prizes!
https://newsthump.com/2025/12/06/nobel- ... oot-prize/
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So when can we expect the FBI to drop their investigation of FIFA?
And remember that if you botch the exit, the carnival of reaction may be coming to a town near you.

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JQH wrote: Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:42 pm So when can we expect the FBI to drop their investigation of FIFA?
After they accept ticket sales in $Trump? Or some other financial bribe.
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We used to joke about George Bush's "War on Tourism". But it seems Trump has a real war on tourism.

Here is the documentation for the 60-day consultation on proposed new requirements for tourists to the US in the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA), ie visa waiver. Perfectly timed to discourage people from coming to the World Cup (football/soccer) next year.

In addition to present requirements, it is proposed that they disclose:
3. Mandatory Social Media:
In order to comply with the January 2025 Executive Order 14161 (Protecting the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats), CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an ESTA application. The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.

4. High Value Data Elements:
To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4, 2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information already collected in the ESTA application.

The high value data fields include:

a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;
c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;
d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);
e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;
f. Family member dates of birth;
g. Family member places of birth;
h. Family member residencies;
i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;
j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;
k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.
There is no clarification of what "their social media" might mean. There is a longstanding US requirement to estimate the "regulatory burden" of any new requirement, typically how long they think it might take you to do it. So we can see that they think the average person can fill out all this information, if they are typing it into a webform on a computer, in about 4 minutes, or 22 mins on a mobile phone.
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IvanV wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 4:18 pm We used to joke about George Bush's "War on Tourism". But it seems Trump has a real war on tourism.

Here is the documentation for the 60-day consultation on proposed new requirements for tourists to the US in the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA), ie visa waiver. Perfectly timed to discourage people from coming to the World Cup (football/soccer) next year.

In addition to present requirements, it is proposed that they disclose:
3. Mandatory Social Media:
In order to comply with the January 2025 Executive Order 14161 (Protecting the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats), CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an ESTA application. The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.

4. High Value Data Elements:
To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4, 2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information already collected in the ESTA application.

The high value data fields include:

a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;
c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;
d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);
e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;
f. Family member dates of birth;
g. Family member places of birth;
h. Family member residencies;
i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;
j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;
k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.
There is no clarification of what "their social media" might mean. There is a longstanding US requirement to estimate the "regulatory burden" of any new requirement, typically how long they think it might take you to do it. So we can see that they think the average person can fill out all this information, if they are typing it into a webform on a computer, in about 4 minutes, or 22 mins on a mobile phone.
I was looking at that earlier and concluded I'd fail on several (depending on definitions):
a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
There was a UK phone in my name a few years ago but one that I primarily got for my father and we hardly used, and we abandoned it (no idea what the number was). Plus there was a French PAYG phone no. I might have had 5 years ago but lost it. And I've had temporary nos. during telecoms provider switch-overs while waiting to port my no.
b. Email addresses used in the last ten years; - I've used maybe 50 email addresses (I have my own domain, plus I have used disposable ones. 20 or so probably impossible to determine)
c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos; - don't get this at all! So, I'm supposed to track down the IP address for a café in Paris whose Wi-Fi I used 5 years ago??? Or do they mean something else? (Doesn't say in last 5 years, so I think I'm missing something. Perhaps they mean for when I submit photos??? But still, depends who's Wi-Fi I'm using at the time.)
d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children); - this I can do
e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years; - Family member presumably (typo). But they're having a laugh
f. Family member dates of birth; - this I can do
g. Family member places of birth; - this I can do
h. Family member residencies; - this I can do
i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris; - this I can do
j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years; - depends how one defines business (am in a non-renumerated position as a company officer but I have official duties)
k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years. - depends how one defines business (am in a non-renumerated position as a company officer but I have official duties)
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It strikes me that this is more of a case of knowing most people will fail at providing all their data in some way and so can use it to arbitrarily exclude whoever they wish to for any other reason. That and spying on us foreigns.
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Brightonian wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:06 pm b. Email addresses used in the last ten years; - I've used maybe 50 email addresses (I have my own domain, plus I have used disposable ones. 20 or so probably impossible to determine)
Similar, except two domains & the tendency to make one per site when I remember, e.g. scrutable@one_of_my_domains. Plus 3x different ISPs within the ten years with various emails at their domains, plus a few disposables ones.

Family members, I'd be disinclined to give info for, it seems like an unwarranted invasion of their privacy
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Nineteen grim photos from the Epstein estate, shared by the Democrats on the house oversight committee

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fq3vn18l ... z19hb&dl=0
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation
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jimbob wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:46 pm Nineteen grim photos from the Epstein estate, shared by the Democrats on the house oversight committee

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fq3vn18l ... z19hb&dl=0
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