Minnesota ICE Shooting

[headshot]

This is part of it: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -minnesota

The Trump administration announced it is suspending $129m in federal benefit payments to Minnesota amid allegations of widespread fraud in the state.

Seems they’re trying to paint Minnesota as a pariah state. Perhaps something they can use to remove/challenge its midterm election results.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they declare martial law there.

[Stranger Mouse]

This is part of it: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -minnesota

The Trump administration announced it is suspending $129m in federal benefit payments to Minnesota amid allegations of widespread fraud in the state.

Seems they’re trying to paint Minnesota as a pariah state. Perhaps something they can use to remove/challenge its midterm election results.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they declare martial law there.

I reckon he will invoke the Insurrection Act.

Jen Psaki has new synchronised video showing that the noise that occurs on the shooter’s footage that Magats are saying is the sound of him being hit is probably just him fumbling his phone as he gets his gun to shoot her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILyy5zT5pQ0

[Stranger Mouse]

Apparently she had 4 gunshot wounds (possibly including exit wounds?).

She still had a pulse when the paramedics got to her but not by the time they got her to the snowbank. I wonder if this will have repercussions with regard to the officers refusal to provide medical assistance.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/16/us-news/f ... nneapolis/

[Stranger Mouse]

NYT releases a new video breakdown using new and clearer footage clearly showing the ICE story is bollocks.

I’ve included a link to a tweet containing a gift link.

https://x.com/annabower/status/2012160441963692155?s=61

[Grumble]

NYT releases a new video breakdown using new and clearer footage clearly showing the ICE story is bollocks.

I’ve included a link to a tweet containing a gift link.

https://x.com/annabower/status/2012160441963692155?s=61

Please stop using child p.rn sites.

[Stranger Mouse]

NYT releases a new video breakdown using new and clearer footage clearly showing the ICE story is bollocks.

I’ve included a link to a tweet containing a gift link.

https://x.com/annabower/status/2012160441963692155?s=61

Please stop using child p.rn sites.

What?

[bjn]

You must have missed it, but Musk’s social media company X has an embed AI image generator called Grok which will happily turn an image of person, whether adult or child, into a sexualised version of that person. So a kiddy p.rn generator.

[Stranger Mouse]

You must have missed it, but Musk’s social media company X has an embed AI image generator called Grok which will happily turn an image of person, whether adult or child, into a sexualised version of that person. So a kiddy p.rn generator.

I haven’t missed it but it was a pretty bizarre way of responding to me posting a link about the Minnesota shooting. I would have given a direct link to the New York Times but when I posted it this was the only gift link I could find and a direct link ended up behind a payroll.i did check if Anne Bower was on BlueSky but I couldn’t find her.

If anyone wants to start a thread detailing which sites they believe are suitable for linking to because of problems unrelated to the subject matter of a link they can feel free. But if anyone’s attempt to win me over to their side is to tell me “stop using child p.rn sites” they can go f.ck themselves and ask if they would say that to my face in meatspace. Especially since it was on the Google searchable area of the forum which I thought we were supposed to be more restrained on.

Twitter has turned from “sh.t in places, good in places” to mostly sh.t with serious problems and I wouldn’t complain if it got closed down but right now I can follow worthwhile people on there which are useful sources of information. If anyone wants to dissuade me from doing that and use another source they may want to consider using a different tactic than “stop using child p.rn sites”

Jesus. No wonder hardly anyone posts anymore.

[Martin Y]

A few days ago we heard that the Minnesota police were being shut out and not allowed to cooperate in the FBI's investigation of this shooting.

Over on the ISF, a new post has a clip of an interview with a deputy director from the Dept of Justice, saying they are not investigating the shooting.

https://internationalskeptics.com/forum ... t-14749661

Now as far as I understand it, the FBI is an agency of the DOJ so if what he says is true, there is no FBI investigation. So it does look as if there is literally nobody whose job it currently is to investigate this killing.

I don't want to sound melodramatic but... holy f.ck what sort of banana republic is this sh.t happening in?

[jimbob]

A few days ago we heard that the Minnesota police were being shut out and not allowed to cooperate in the FBI's investigation of this shooting.

Over on the ISF, a new post has a clip of an interview with a deputy director from the Dept of Justice, saying they are not investigating the shooting.

https://internationalskeptics.com/forum ... t-14749661

Now as far as I understand it, the FBI is an agency of the DOJ so if what he says is true, there is no FBI investigation. So it does look as if there is literally nobody whose job it currently is to investigate this killing.

I don't want to sound melodramatic but... holy f.ck what sort of banana republic is this sh.t happening in?

Agreed

[Grumble]

You must have missed it, but Musk’s social media company X has an embed AI image generator called Grok which will happily turn an image of person, whether adult or child, into a sexualised version of that person. So a kiddy p.rn generator.

I haven’t missed it but it was a pretty bizarre way of responding to me posting a link about the Minnesota shooting. I would have given a direct link to the New York Times but when I posted it this was the only gift link I could find and a direct link ended up behind a payroll.i did check if Anne Bower was on BlueSky but I couldn’t find her.

If anyone wants to start a thread detailing which sites they believe are suitable for linking to because of problems unrelated to the subject matter of a link they can feel free. But if anyone’s attempt to win me over to their side is to tell me “stop using child p.rn sites” they can go f.ck themselves and ask if they would say that to my face in meatspace. Especially since it was on the Google searchable area of the forum which I thought we were supposed to be more restrained on.

Twitter has turned from “sh.t in places, good in places” to mostly sh.t with serious problems and I wouldn’t complain if it got closed down but right now I can follow worthwhile people on there which are useful sources of information. If anyone wants to dissuade me from doing that and use another source they may want to consider using a different tactic than “stop using child p.rn sites”

Jesus. No wonder hardly anyone posts anymore.

I’m not accusing you of liking that side of X, but I absolutely would say that about X to you face to face.

[Stranger Mouse]

A few days ago we heard that the Minnesota police were being shut out and not allowed to cooperate in the FBI's investigation of this shooting.

Over on the ISF, a new post has a clip of an interview with a deputy director from the Dept of Justice, saying they are not investigating the shooting.

https://internationalskeptics.com/forum ... t-14749661

Now as far as I understand it, the FBI is an agency of the DOJ so if what he says is true, there is no FBI investigation. So it does look as if there is literally nobody whose job it currently is to investigate this killing.

I don't want to sound melodramatic but... holy f.ck what sort of banana republic is this sh.t happening in?

Agreed

Furthermore DOJ lawyers have allegedly resigned because they were told not to investigate the shooter but to investigate Renee Nicole Good’s wife for connections to protest groups.

[Chris Preston]

Now as far as I understand it, the FBI is an agency of the DOJ so if what he says is true, there is no FBI investigation. So it does look as if there is literally nobody whose job it currently is to investigate this killing.

That is correct. The DOJ says the killing does not need to be investigated. On the other hand the full force of the law needs to be used against a group of protesters who disrupted a church service being led by a pastor who is also an ICE official.

[IvanV]

Now as far as I understand it, the FBI is an agency of the DOJ so if what he says is true, there is no FBI investigation. So it does look as if there is literally nobody whose job it currently is to investigate this killing.

That is correct. The DOJ says the killing does not need to be investigated. On the other hand the full force of the law needs to be used against a group of protesters who disrupted a church service being led by a pastor who is also an ICE official.

It was always likely to be the case that this will not be litigated until there is a non-MAGA president on the throne. For now Trump has made it a throne, it has become one even after him. The potential exception was if enough MAGA partisans were so shocked by it that Trump had to throw them a scapegoat, but that does not seem to have happened. And maybe even after MAGA no longer has the executive, the likely long-continuing MAGA majority on the supreme court can prevent a case going forward. (As a sidebar, supreme court judges may be at risk of their lives going forward, given that they can remain there even unto death. That is a real indictment of this US politicised approach to their supreme court, and life-long appointments to it.)

In theory, I understand from what I have researched about this, it can be prosecuted once there is a DOJ without this particular partisan status, who can return the case to the state. Trump can't give a pre-emptive pardon for an offence under state law. And there is no statute of limitations on murder prosecutions under state or federal law. But, recognising that there will be retributions just has he has applied retributions, Trump will likely give a pre-emptive pardon anyway, as that will make it go away if Ross can successfully argue it is a federal rather than state matter, which may be where the supreme court might have influence. It would prevent a reconstituted DOJ litigating it at federal level.

Even under state law, it would be a difficult prosecution. Prosecuting deaths caused by security officials is always difficult. There is genuine lack of legal clarity, not only over whether it is federal or state jurisdiction, but also whether an ICE agent benefits from the same limited immunities as police officers under state law, and also what is the extent and applicability of the limited immunities of federal agents going about their business.

[Stranger Mouse]

They’ve just killed someone else. Unclear from the video at first about what is happening (feds say he had a gun but y’know) but quite clearly at the end of the video an agent seems to be pumping bullets into a prone body.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ral-agents

Direct link to video. Upsetting but not graphic. It seems like that lady in the pink jacket would have far better footage but I’m wondering if it will disappear (does that make me cynical?)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/co ... utm_term=3

[Martin Y]

Police press conference said the cops don't yet know what happened before the events in the video, that the dead man's only previous interaction with police concerned parking tickets and they believe he was a lawful gun owner.

Whether we get to see the video taken by the woman in pink may depend on what it shows. I understand several witnesses have been taken to the local federal building from which ICE operates, and it would seem likely that will include her.

Customs and Border Patrol's press conference may be a bit tense. Or completely defiant. Wonder if they'll go with "nothing to see here this time either".

[Opti]

There are reports that a lot of the witnesses have been taken to the Whipple building (ICE headquarters). Makes you wonder how much video will emerge from there.
Mind you we all know that DHS and DOJ just lie anyway.

[dyqik]

Police press conference said the cops don't yet know what happened before the events in the video, that the dead man's only previous interaction with police concerned parking tickets and they believe he was a lawful gun owner.

Also, concealed carry is legal in Minnesota.

[Stranger Mouse]

Cant post video just now but plenty of footage showing he approached with a phone. He was pushed back and someone near him was shoved and attacked. I think he tried to pull them off her. They all piled on after an agent had apparently removed his gun from the victim’s holster and then he was shot five or more times including while lying motionless on the ground.

[Gfamily]

Police press conference said the cops don't yet know what happened before the events in the video, that the dead man's only previous interaction with police concerned parking tickets and they believe he was a lawful gun owner.

Also, concealed carry is legal in Minnesota.

As is open carry with a permit.

[Stranger Mouse]

New angle showing how he was pushed to the ground and assaulted

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1 ... ictim_had/

I was trying to avoid posting Twitter links bearing in mind the b.llsh.t up thread but I’ve only been able to find these clearest angles there at the moment so I will post them.

https://x.com/thejfreakinc/status/20151 ... 77153?s=61

This is the most shocking and explanatory one. It was an execution style murder

https://x.com/dropsitenews/status/20151 ... 21472?s=61

[Chris Preston]

Trump has finally realised that this is making him look weak rather than strong. Bovino apparently has been ousted and is stated to be "retiring". Noem has just come out to state that everything she has said and done has occurred because Trump and Stephen Miller told her to. She must think she is under threat of being ousted as well.

[jimbob]

Trump has finally realised that this is making him look weak rather than strong. Bovino apparently has been ousted and is stated to be "retiring". Noem has just come out to state that everything she has said and done has occurred because Trump and Stephen Miller told her to. She must think she is under threat of being ousted as well.

And this also makes him look weak.

He blinked first, which isn't what a wannabe dictator wants to do

[noggins]

You must have missed it, but Musk’s social media company X has an embed AI image generator called Grok which will happily turn an image of person, whether adult or child, into a sexualised version of that person. So a kiddy p.rn generator.

2016 Elon Musk
in 10 years we'll have self-driving cars on Mars

2026 Elon Musk
I've updated my child p.rn machine to be more racist


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[jimbob]

Apparently this is on threads

daendeleon 2d
@ Threads
Greg Bovino was asked how he felt about his demotion today. "Well, obviously, I'm not happy", he replied.
Someone in the crowd shouted back, "So which one are you?"