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dyqik wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:06 pm
Tristan wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:24 pm
dyqik wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:11 am

You keep saying that, but you haven't said how many more small companies are involved than big companies. If it's 100 times more (and I'd expect it's more than that given the likely scalings), then you're not making sense.
You’re assuming that the effort required grows at the same rate as the number of companies. Perhaps that would be the case if it was all the gap needed prosecutions to fix. But if it’s more likely down to errors etc. (as you claim) then solutions could be put in place that help many more companies meet their tax obligations.
Eh? That's not what I'm talking about at all.
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This is extremely disturbing, to put it mildly. The Labour faction now running the party and proving itself to be utterly crap at delivering change for normal Britons took undeclared money from a number of rich folk to fund their campaign, all while trying to make it look like a grass roots movement. In the process they smeared journalists looking into this and set private investigators on several of them.

Note that McSweeney is a protege of Mandelson.

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So much for a crackdown on sleeze... I've been right put off Labour by Starmer and the moves to see off Reform.

I've never voted Green in a GE before... next time could be the first time... although tactically it's likely to be a vote for the LD's.

I find myself wondering if it really could have gotten this sh.t under Corbyn? Or Milliband?
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I’d really love Labour to be able to articulate a positive vision for the country that isn’t just reacting to what Reform are doing. I think Milliband is definitely trying to do that in his department, but I don’t see much else in the positive messaging.
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Grumble wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:13 pm I’d really love Labour to be able to articulate a positive vision for the country that isn’t just reacting to what Reform are doing. I think Milliband is definitely trying to do that in his department, but I don’t see much else in the positive messaging.
Well, they have done some good stuff, they just don't want anyone to know about it apparently. Which probably makes it much more un-doable when they get voted out. Got to love it.
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discovolante wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:18 pm
Grumble wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:13 pm I’d really love Labour to be able to articulate a positive vision for the country that isn’t just reacting to what Reform are doing. I think Milliband is definitely trying to do that in his department, but I don’t see much else in the positive messaging.
Well, they have done some good stuff, they just don't want anyone to know about it apparently. Which probably makes it much more un-doable when they get voted out. Got to love it.
Yes, it’s the not talking about it I’m complaining about. Milliband gets lots of flak from the usual suspects when he does pop up, but at least that means he’s getting noticed.
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Grumble wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:31 pm
discovolante wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:18 pm
Grumble wrote: Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:13 pm I’d really love Labour to be able to articulate a positive vision for the country that isn’t just reacting to what Reform are doing. I think Milliband is definitely trying to do that in his department, but I don’t see much else in the positive messaging.
Well, they have done some good stuff, they just don't want anyone to know about it apparently. Which probably makes it much more un-doable when they get voted out. Got to love it.
Yes, it’s the not talking about it I’m complaining about. Milliband gets lots of flak from the usual suspects when he does pop up, but at least that means he’s getting noticed.
Fair enough. From recollection I think the only bigotry Starmer has responded to clearly and decisively is antisemitism, so I'm not that surprised that he's not up to much in the face of Reform type rhetoric. It's pretty worrying given that the situation has gone well beyond what you might call liberal handwringing (I mean, if you really wanted to).
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