Getting Brexit done

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Sciolus » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:03 pm

So all you doomsters were saying that voting for Brexit would mean the collapse of the economy, planes being grounded, medicines being rationed, food shortages, supervolcanoes, companies moving overseas, queues on the motorways, financial services ending, ports being gridlocked, and the end of civilisation as we know it. And of course it was fine. But you remoaners just whined, "well we haven't actually declared Article 50 yet", and said that when we did, it would mean the collapse of the economy, planes being grounded, medicines being rationed, food shortages, supervolcanoes, companies moving overseas, queues on the motorways, financial services ending, ports being gridlocked, and the end of civilisation as we know it. And of course it was fine. But you remoaners just whined, "well we haven't actually left yet", and said that when we did, it would mean the collapse of the economy, planes being grounded, medicines being rationed, food shortages, supervolcanoes, companies moving overseas, queues on the motorways, financial services ending, ports being gridlocked, and the end of civilisation as we know it. And look, now we've left, and it's fine -- nothing bad has happened and everyone is suffused with the glow of fresh sovereignty and freedom.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:32 pm

f.cking pathetic gammony fireworks pricks setting them off at 11pm can take a giant f.cking Catherine wheel and shove it up their pustulent a..eholes.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by veravista » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 pm

Still, as a gammon said up the pub last night 'thank god we can go back to buying stuff in pounds and ounces now'.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by GeenDienst » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:51 pm

But you can't call them stupid, cos we've all got to come together now.
Just tell 'em I'm broke and don't come round here no more.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by bjn » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:33 am

GeenDienst wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:51 pm
But you can't call them stupid, cos we've all got to come together now.
I'm not forgiving or forgetting. f.ck 'em. When a leave voter get chucked out of their jobs because their business has shut down or relocated. f.ck 'em. When a leave voting farmer goes under because they've lost their subsidy and cheap US chicken/pork/beef under cuts them. f.ck 'em. When NICE says a leave voter can't have a drug because our US trade deal inflated its price. f.ck 'em.

f.ck 'em all.

Sadly the JRMs of Brexit have already moved their money offshore or are in the process of, they won't be f.cked.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by shpalman » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:11 am

bjn wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:33 am
GeenDienst wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:51 pm
But you can't call them stupid, cos we've all got to come together now.
I'm not forgiving or forgetting. f.ck 'em. When a leave voter get chucked out of their jobs because their business has shut down or relocated. f.ck 'em. When a leave voting farmer goes under because they've lost their subsidy and cheap US chicken/pork/beef under cuts them. f.ck 'em. When NICE says a leave voter can't have a drug because our US trade deal inflated its price. f.ck 'em.

f.ck 'em all.

Sadly the JRMs of Brexit have already moved their money offshore or are in the process of, they won't be f.cked.
The town where I was born, and the city in which my family now lives, voted Leave and went blue in the election just now (Scunthorpe in particular had been labour for like forever). So yeah, f.ck 'em. Especially members of my family who came to England poor but now have more money than they really know what to do with who voted Leave and tory to f.ck anyone else in the position they used to be in. I hope it f.cks up their ability to have a f.cking holiday every two months and maybe their small business will suffer and they'll have to drive a slightly smaller Jaguar and maybe not flip their house quite so often.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by purplehaze » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:05 pm

What I want to know is what does unite the country mean?

Is the UK not a united kingdom of countries?

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by FlammableFlower » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:48 pm

Boris has declared full customs checks on goods coming in from the EU by January 2021.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by sTeamTraen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:15 pm

veravista wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 pm
Still, as a gammon said up the pub last night 'thank god we can go back to buying stuff in pounds and ounces now'.
Things that many Brexiteers are going to get a bit of a surprise about, even after the end of the transition period:
- UK weights and measures legislation (introduced by the Tory government in mid-1990s and condemned by some of the Tory MPs who voted for it as "creeping European socialist domination" when it finally took effect under the subsequent Labour government at the end of a long transition period) still mandates metric measures for everything except for milk (why??), draught beer, and road signs.
- UK still in Eurovision song contest (and presumably not doing any better).
- UK residents still able to buy Euromillions lottery tickets (actually, I suspect quite a few Leave voters checked that would be the case before voting).
- UK still in European Commission on Yooman Rights and subject to decisions of the European Court of Yooman Rights.
- UK still in European Space Agency.
- UK still in European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN).

What else?
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by sTeamTraen » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:17 pm

FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Boris has declared full customs checks on goods coming in from the EU by January 2021.
Wow. Got a link? The whole point of the alleged "survivability" of No Deal was that it would only be the evil French imposing customs checks, with everything continuing to come into the UK on trust. I guess it's good news for Portakabin suppliers in Kent.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by shpalman » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:41 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:15 pm
veravista wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 pm
Still, as a gammon said up the pub last night 'thank god we can go back to buying stuff in pounds and ounces now'.
Things that many Brexiteers are going to get a bit of a surprise about, even after the end of the transition period:
- UK weights and measures legislation (introduced by the Tory government in mid-1990s and condemned by some of the Tory MPs who voted for it as "creeping European socialist domination" when it finally took effect under the subsequent Labour government at the end of a long transition period) still mandates metric measures for everything except for milk (why??), draught beer, and road signs.
"I'd like half a pound of men at work and 3 oz. of keep left, please."
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by plebian » Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:50 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:17 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Boris has declared full customs checks on goods coming in from the EU by January 2021.
Wow. Got a link? The whole point of the alleged "survivability" of No Deal was that it would only be the evil French imposing customs checks, with everything continuing to come into the UK on trust. I guess it's good news for Portakabin suppliers in Kent.
It's just part of his "strategy" of extreme positions as bargaining chip in negotiations. Don't pay it any heed.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by dyqik » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:05 pm

I'm not sure BMW and like can take that risk.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by jimbob » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:29 pm

plebian wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:50 pm
sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:17 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Boris has declared full customs checks on goods coming in from the EU by January 2021.
Wow. Got a link? The whole point of the alleged "survivability" of No Deal was that it would only be the evil French imposing customs checks, with everything continuing to come into the UK on trust. I guess it's good news for Portakabin suppliers in Kent.
It's just part of his "strategy" of extreme positions as bargaining chip in negotiations. Don't pay it any heed.
That's my feeling - but he possibly hasn't realised this is more damaging to the UK than the EU.
dyqik wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:05 pm
I'm not sure BMW and like can take that risk.
Indeed
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by FlammableFlower » Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:50 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:17 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Boris has declared full customs checks on goods coming in from the EU by January 2021.
Wow. Got a link? The whole point of the alleged "survivability" of No Deal was that it would only be the evil French imposing customs checks, with everything continuing to come into the UK on trust. I guess it's good news for Portakabin suppliers in Kent.
Here you go: Johnson to impose full customs checks on goods from EU – report

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -eu-report

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by shpalman » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:34 pm

having that swing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it meaning a thing
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by headshot » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:41 pm

And thus: Gibraltar...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... tar-claims

Seems every Brexiter tw.t hadn’t paid any attention to that particular thorny issue.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Little waster » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:54 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ions-to-eu

I’m getting deja-vu again.

Presumably Johnson will soon pledge to give the EU “the fight of the Summer”, with “blood-red lines” that “no UK government could ever accept breaching”. That’s always worked out so well for us.

If you wish to skip to the humiliating climb-down please turn to the posts about 3 hours after the first negotiation starts.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by lpm » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:11 am

I like the term "blue tape" and I want it to get established. The imposition of bureaucracy and rules on everyday interactions with our EU neighbours.

It's one of the ironies - Conservatives always moan about red tape and pretend getting rid of it is a miracle answer to everything , and now they are deliberately inflicting blue tape on companies.
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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by JQH » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:40 pm

shpalman wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:34 pm
Well feckadoodledoo
Well, they made the mistake of believing words that spewed from Johnson's festering gob.
And remember that if you botch the exit, the carnival of reaction may be coming to a town near you.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Sciolus » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:18 am

JQH wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:40 pm
shpalman wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:34 pm
Well feckadoodledoo
Well, they made the mistake of believing words that spewed from Johnson's festering gob.
It would take a heart of stone not to laugh*. I can't believe that Foster, NI's answer to Chris Grayling, is actually in charge there.

*Until you remember that they're a bunch of murdering terrorist bastards.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by TimW » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:31 am

When does the campaign to rejoin the EU start?

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Ben B » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:17 pm

purplehaze wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:05 pm
Is the UK not a united kingdom of countries?
Not for long
The first ten million years were the worst.
And the second ten million, they were the worst too.

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by FlammableFlower » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:56 pm

TimW wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:31 am
When does the campaign to rejoin the EU start?
That's the second time I've seen that comment today!

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Re: Getting Brexit done

Post by Woodchopper » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:14 pm

The EU negotiating directives have been published.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/fi ... ctives.pdf

It'll be interesting to see what the UK publishes in advance.

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