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Dubious scientific claims in advertising and public places...
#1: Organic food.
Translation: "Eating organic is better for you and better for the planet".
#1: Organic food.
Translation: "Eating organic is better for you and better for the planet".
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Re: Citation needed
it’s certainly locally better for insects and the wider food web, worse in terms of the amount of land you need to farm though.
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But still with problematic pesticides, like copper sulfate etc.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:01 pmAs far as I remember with less use of pesticides.
Related to that, do not eat the skins of organic potatoes.
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Have you got a reference for that ? In one of my online lives I'm surrounded by wibble of the "vegan and organic" variety (FFS, do they have no idea what goes into fertiliser for "organic" food?), so it would be nice to have some backup about copper residues.
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It's a personal recommendation from an ecologist of our former parish.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:15 pmHave you got a reference for that ? In one of my online lives I'm surrounded by wibble of the "vegan and organic" variety (FFS, do they have no idea what goes into fertiliser for "organic" food?), so it would be nice to have some backup about copper residues.
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Also a recommendation of a food residues expert of our familydyqik wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:19 pmIt's a personal recommendation from an ecologist of our former parish.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:15 pmHave you got a reference for that ? In one of my online lives I'm surrounded by wibble of the "vegan and organic" variety (FFS, do they have no idea what goes into fertiliser for "organic" food?), so it would be nice to have some backup about copper residues.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
Meta? I'd say so!
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
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Not a vegan/organic question, but how do they feel on the rice/arsenic question?Gfamily wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:37 pmAlso a recommendation of a food residues expert of our familydyqik wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:19 pmIt's a personal recommendation from an ecologist of our former parish.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:15 pm
Have you got a reference for that ? In one of my online lives I'm surrounded by wibble of the "vegan and organic" variety (FFS, do they have no idea what goes into fertiliser for "organic" food?), so it would be nice to have some backup about copper residues.
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I don't recall any hesitancy about eating rice, I think she just accepts it, As is.
My avatar was a scientific result that was later found to be 'mistaken' - I rarely claim to be 100% correct
ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
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ETA 5/8/20: I've been advised that the result was correct, it was the initial interpretation that needed to be withdrawn
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Nicely done.
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There needs to be a synthesis of organic and GMO technology. Fewer pesticides and yield enhancing modifications. Take GMOs from the corporations and put them in the hands of agriculture departments and the universities.
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Not much chance of that happening as long as the organic evangelists are so dead set against GMO. Not nacheral, y'see.Herainestold wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:37 pmThere needs to be a synthesis of organic and GMO technology. Fewer pesticides and yield enhancing modifications. Take GMOs from the corporations and put them in the hands of agriculture departments and the universities.
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I concur.
Oddly enough, I looked into the problem* of arsenic in rice once, which is exacerbated by the the absorption method of cooking it (grow it in arsenic contaminated rice paddies, then cook it via absorption in arsenic contaminated water). Steamed rice is a bit of a misnomer, as the rice absorbs a lot of the water it is cooked with, and there is evidence rice takes up arsenic from the cooking water. I was previously under the mistaken impression that rice steamers actually steamed the rice, which would be better than boiling it in arsenic contaminated water. And of course, rice steamers don't actually only steam the rice: it would take far too long.
It turns out the BBC programme Trust Me, I'm a Doctor also looked into this:
Should I be concerned about arsenic in my rice?
Which came to the conclusion that if you wanted to reduce the level of Arsenic in the cooked rice, it needed to be cooked in a large excess of water.
I still eat rice cooked by the absorption method, but not every day.
*Not professionally
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Thanks.Pucksoppet wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:14 pmI concur.
Oddly enough, I looked into the problem* of arsenic in rice once, which is exacerbated by the the absorption method of cooking it (grow it in arsenic contaminated rice paddies, then cook it via absorption in arsenic contaminated water). Steamed rice is a bit of a misnomer, as the rice absorbs a lot of the water it is cooked with, and there is evidence rice takes up arsenic from the cooking water. I was previously under the mistaken impression that rice steamers actually steamed the rice, which would be better than boiling it in arsenic contaminated water. And of course, rice steamers don't actually only steam the rice: it would take far too long.
It turns out the BBC programme Trust Me, I'm a Doctor also looked into this:
Should I be concerned about arsenic in my rice?
Which came to the conclusion that if you wanted to reduce the level of Arsenic in the cooked rice, it needed to be cooked in a large excess of water.
I still eat rice cooked by the absorption method, but not every day.
*Not professionally
I must admit that, since originally reading about it, I have cooked rice by the excess water method - I used to use the absorption method.
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